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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a child who will, in later years, likely have interactions with the carceral system, whereas your child will be privileged. As equity is our most important value, the privileged need to face more struggle, and the future oppressed need to be able to have more enjoyment in their lives.[/quote]

NP and a teacher. I recognize this is a troll post, but you're right about one thing. The kids who are acting out like this are likely to end up incarcerated, especially if they're not taught that inappropriate behavior has negative consequences. In most cases it's a parenting issue and the lax discipline policies in schools are doing them no favors. There are also kids with attentive parents who have serious mental health issues and need a lot more support than a public school system can provide.[/quote]

Thank you for being honest that worthless parenting is a big contributor to this problem. It is. [/quote]

I agree strongly with the teacher. [b]It’s a parenting problem. The problematic children aren’t special needs.[/b]They’re hyper, unfocused and don’t get enough parent attention. Focus is a learned skill, so is not talking out of turn.

Part of the problem also is that schools can’t discipline or remove kids, and of course their parents don’t either. [/quote]

All of them? How do you know? My kid had multiple head injuries, plus preexisting special needs. You’d have no idea if your child was in class with him. No professional who’s heard our story has anything negative to say about my patenting, but believe me, they walk in the door wondering. Are there many kids whose behavior stems from parenting problems? Possible. But not ALL. That’s so insulting. Look up Phineas Gage if you think my child’s misbehavior was my fault. [/quote]

You’re arguing to assume zebras not horses when you hear galloping animals. It’s just absurd. Every kid who is misbehaving is not Phineas Gage. Do you care about the well-behaved, determined students in nightmare rooms because of poorly behaving kids? Are each of them as special as yours, or does the fact that you’ve spent a lot of time interacting with ‘professionals’ plural reenacting the Good Will Hunting ‘it’s not your fault’ scene sum you up?

Come on. Get over yourself. [/quote]

+1    [b]I'm so tired of hearing that we either want kids like this to be warehoused or kicked out. [/b] No...we just think that OUR kids have just as much right to an education and safety as the disruptive kids.  So if their behavior is disruptive, their parents need to take responsiblitiiy and figure it out.  No one should have to sit in a classroom like we've seen described here.  Our kids are special too.   One child causing damage to 24 other kids, and no one thinks that makes no sense?    Selfish selfish selfish.[/quote]

Except the rest of your post says you want them kicked out.

If you actually wanted to address the problem, you'd be advocating for additional resources in public schools to provide for a combination of supports and services in general
education classrooms and self-contained special programs.

But you obviously don't want to have to pay for that. So instead you want to expel them
from public schools. [b]You're not going to win that battle.[/b]

You're to have to decide if you're more interested in pushing for changes that would make things better for all students or (futilely) continuing to push for policies that would make things worse for kids with special needs.[/quote]

DP. You keep threatening that we’re not going to “win” against you so shouldn’t bother trying. I really don’t know why you keep saying that. I think people have had enough. We have finite resources and we already pay FAR more per student than any other country for education. You’re not going to “win” getting much more money out of us. (At least you correctly acknowledge that in many ways this is a battle and it’s you versus the rest of us.) At some point the burden has to go back on parents - if they want “more” (expensive) for their child than a “special school” (that you seem to call warehouse) then they need to find a way to fit the bill for that themselves. Just like if there were any other problem with their child. Taxpayers can provide a BASIC level of support but your child is ultimately your problem to handle, not mine. I’m sorry. My kids have issues too that are expensive to handle in the way we prefer to handle them, but we don’t expect taxpayers to foot the bill for it. Is it utopia? No. But it’s the real world.

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