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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^PP we live in completely different worlds.  I don't even know where to begin to understand your viewpoint. I fear for my country because you just elected someone who is going to burn this country to the ground and make us unsafe in the world.  I would sit back with popcorn but this is too serious not to be worried.  He is an incompetent narcissist who seems to have no consequences for any of his actions.  I am sick thinking about what this term will bring.  If he manages to follow through on his promises, this country is going to be destroyed to such a degree that I don't think that the next person elected will be able to put it back together.

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Truer words were never spoken. MAGA has an alternate reality where everything is upside down.

Every single thing they accuse dems of, they are doing. Then some. [/quote]

No.  I will give you one clear exception.

People on the right do not support censorship and have not censored the left.  (Disagreeing on school curriculum is not “censorship” btw so don’t even start - different issue.)

We learned after Elon Musk purchased Twitter what we already all suspected.  The federal government was colluding with big tech to censor tens of thousands of people who disagreed with them.  About not just one or two but dozens of political issues.  Then, when people started to try to create new platforms, they even tried to ban those platforms from the Apple / Google App Store duopoly.  And get people fired from jobs.  And get people kicked off Substack and their books removed from Amazon and even their websites pulled by ISPs.

It was the left that tried to create a “disinformation board.”

By contrast, you are all free to criticize Trump or the right or me or my religion as much as you wish.  I’ll disagree with you, but I’ll defend your right and ability to do so.

Even now Jen Psaki is delusionally talking about how “laws need to change” - so she and her friends can be in charge of what is considered appropriate information.

This is fundamentally unAmerican.  The reason our country exists is to protect freedom of speech, religion, assembly, etc.  Anyone that wants to strip Americans of these rights cannot be trusted anywhere near political power.

Everything else I can grouse about and move on but that was the unforgivable sin.

And I’ll let Trump fire whatever bureaucrats he wants or file whatever lawsuits you want and shrug my shoulders unless and until you loose the right to speak out against it.  Only then will I have your back again.[/quote]

Conservatives do indeed censor, with wild abandon.  They routinely declare any facts they don't like hearing to be "fake news" even though they can be proven, they engage in self-censorship by boycotting media outlets over "bias" and then turn to even more biased and even less trustworthy far right outlets.  They constantly try to cancel individuals and businesses - Bud Light, Gillette, Dixie Chicks, one thing after another.  Their "free speech" guy Elon Musk has suspended numerous liberal accounts.  Trump has threatened to weaponize the FCC and other agencies to strip licenses from any news outlet that is critical of him.  https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/media/trump-strip-tv-station-licenses-punish-media/index.html

You are completely clueless and out of touch if you think your side is any champion of free speech.  Wake up.[/quote]

Boycotts and disagreeing with false narratives are not censorship.

I disagree with Elon’s decision to say “cisgender” is a slur.  Still, X allows for a much wider range of speech than 2020 Twitter did.

Trump hasn’t stripped an FCC license from anyone, let’s see what happens.

I do think companies should pay for those licenses.  That would help close the federal budget deficit.[/quote]

Much of what conservatives refer to as "censorship" is also not censorship - for example they claimed it was "censorship" for disinfo to be fact checked.  The mere fact that Trump is threatening to revoke long-established media licenses alone is quite chilling.[/quote]

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