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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UCLA is a major pressure cooker, as is Berkeley.[/quote] It is? It wasn't when I went there, especially in the Humanities. UCLA has 32k+ undergraduates, which means you'll find nearly every sort of student possible. There are surely some grinders, but you'll also find a reasonable number of students (because of the low instate cost) who just want a degree so that they can become teachers, social workers, or police officers. My particular friend group and I mostly went on to top law schools and medical schools, but I don't recall any particular stress culture. We studied hard, but we also went to LA clubs bars, socialized, took road trips, etc. I occasionally hire UCLA grads and we naturally talk about college, and nearly everyone seems to have had a very positive, fun experience at UCLA. I personally seen any students who were miserable there, although at least a few exist.[/quote] I guarantee no one today is going to UCLA to become a police officer. Are you in your 70s?[/quote] Can you really though? If so, please elaborate on the factual basis of your guarantee. I'm in my 40's and established my relationship to UCLA and its graduates above. What's yours? FWIW, the current police chief in LA went to USC. Anyhow, it's certainly possible things have changed at UCLA since my day. And I'm not claiming that a significant portion of UCLA grads go into law enforcement. But large public universities, even elite ones, can be quite different than the East Coast privates that constitute DCUM's primary focus. Schools like UCLA contain a much higher portion of lower middle-class in-state students who attend without incurring a huge debt. While there are certainly many kids who go into professional careers, finance, and academia, IME there are also a large number who choose to go on to less-prestige oriented careers. And I think this results in a fair portion of students who aren't gunning for perfect grades and competing against one another for a spot at Google, Stanford Med, or Goldman Sachs. That's my main point.[/quote]
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