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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You people really like Michigan.  At $80k/yr consider your options.[/quote]

If an academically comparable Ivy (say, Penn/Cornell/Columbia) costs 90K a year, what would you pay for Michigan?[/quote]

Not comparable but also look at the resources available per student.  It is a large public university but priced like an Ivy without the benefits.[/quote]

I'd say academically comparable but far from comparable from a resources available perspective. Have a kid at Michigan and an Ivy, so know this first hand. [/quote]

Could you please elaborate. Very interested. This would be helpful to everyone. What is the resource difference that you see?[/quote]

Not PP but the issues at large publics are extremely large classes, difficulty enrolling in required courses and courses of interest due to limited space, limited personal interaction with faculty, limited advising, the quality of housing and dining services, etc.  The resources per student are much smaller and it can have a real impact such as having to delay graduation because of difficulty enrolling in courses and the challenges of getting to know faculty that write recommendation letters.[/quote]

You just assume all large publics are the same.  That’s not accurate either. [/quote]

It is more accurate than not.[/quote]

Not to mention budget cuts at some causing programs to be slashed or eliminated.

Is it 600 computer science majors that UMD is accepting now? (I don't know UMich so I'll use that number.) How many of them are going to be doing research with their professors and developing personal recommendations in case they want to continue schooling? All 600? How many professors will that take?

Another issue, and this is true across the board: colleges at every level have a hard time attracting computer science profs because they're competing with the free market and they can't pay accordingly.

So who's actually teaching? And what are they teaching?

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We’re talking about The University of Michigan here.  There are no budget cuts. While it’s true that colleges are having difficulties hiring CS professors, Michigan has the money to complete. I can’t speak for UMD either, but I do know that the school isn’t blessed with an 18 billion dollar endowment and half of its undergraduates paying high OOS tuition.

The budget for the school increased almost 8% this calendar year.

https://provost.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/GeneralFundBudget_2023-24.pdf

New CS building to be completed in 2025.

https://leinweber.bldg.umich.edu/

Michigan has also limited the enrollment for CS/CSE majors to keep things manageable.

https://cse.engin.umich.edu/academics/undergraduate/admissions/

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