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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on  heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11[/quote]

Wait.  Are you talking about this songwriter?  Oliver Anthony?

Where in his song did he say anything about heavyset women?  [/quote]

Apparently women on welfare are the real villains to him, because again, most men are not 5’3”

If he wasn’t just another blathering misogynist I’d say maybe he’s onto something but he’s seriously complaining about the food insecure in 2023 and that’s about as “punching down” as I can imagine. The people who are getting food stamps aren’t rich. They also use the drugs he’s worried about at lower rates than the rest of the American public. Hating the poor to feel better about yourself isn’t interesting to me.[/quote]

He said nothing about women.  That is YOUR stereotyping.  
And, he is not complaining about the poor.  He is complaining about the ridiculous government programs that perpetuate obesity and poor health by providing funding that allows these people to purchase junk - yes JUNK food with taxpayer funding.

I am getting the distinct feeling that you are more upset about the people who can relate to this song than the songwriter himself.  [/quote]

I don’t actually care about the guy or the lyrics, I’m just amazed people are pretending he’s not targeting the absolute usual suspects— women and the poor.

He doesn’t say “we should change our food stamps policy to encourage healthier food the way we do with WIC”
He says if you’re obese and a size that mostly refers to women— taxpayers shouldn’t pay. If you’re skinny and male fudge rounds for everyone right? [/quote]

Your response is a perfect example of how the left is unable to relate to the working class. People don't trust government programs "meant to help" specifically because that help often comes with side effects that keep people sick, poor, and mentally unwell. This isn't an R vs D issue, this is a class issue. Look, for example, at covid vaccine rates among black people and how long it took to get traction in that demographic. Why? Because they don't trust the medical community or the government. And they have good reason, if you look at history.

So when this singer points out the high obesity rates among the poor, he is speaking specifically to that distrust. And he's not wrong.  Look at graphs of when weight issues started to appear in America and then juxtapose it with a graph on farm subsidies. Farm subsidies incentivized corn production in particular, which became corn syrup, dumped into a ton of food products. Corn filler, corn syrup, etc added calories where there were previously fewer calories. The government did this because they wanted to do the right thing. They wanted to end hunger in America. The goals were noble. But good intentions can lead to bad consequences and a little humility about that could do the political class a world of good. [/quote]

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