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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just a quick look at all of the organizations that are totally wrong about the risks of obesity https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/conditions/obesity/index.cfm https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/effects/index.html https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obesity/symptoms-causes/syc-20375742 Thanks to the fat positive posters for pointing out their errors. [/quote] Yeah. They are wrong. Here is my issue with these articles. They say that people who are obese have a higher incidence of these illnesses. They don’t say that when obese people lose weight, the incidence goes down. Look, these organizations exist within a larger social context. There are higher incidences of stroke and heart disease among African Americans as well, and these organizations will point out genetic and social causes, like physician bias and access to care. Probably, the causes heart disease and stroke in these populations is multi factorial and have to do with genetics, SES, and access to care. But the answer is to spread awareness, not to say that everyone should try to look and act like a thin, white, cis man. [/quote] Do you have any peer reviewed studies published in reputable journals saying that obesity is not unhealthy? [/quote] Yes. I have one that says that losing weight does not lead to better health outcomes long term. I posted it earlier, but there was a huge multi site prospective study that took place over ten years and included thousands of people. It was called “Look aHEAD” and it was funded by the NIH and published in New England Journal of Medicine. There is also a population based study from the CDC that shows lower mortality rates overall for people who are overweight and no increase in mortality for a people with a BMI of 30-35. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23280227/ I promise you. I was as surprised as anyone to see this. Apparently this woman who published this study was later villanized for daring to publish her findings. [/quote] This is very interesting! I look a look at PPs link. If you're 5'4", which I guess is average, you can weigh up to 170-ish and have a slightly lower mortality rate than "average" weight people. If you want to enjoy the same mortality rate as average weight people, you can weigh up to 200-ish at 5'4". Holy smokes! I'm 5' and weigh 115, which isn't skinny for my height at all. So, eat more burritos?? [/quote] Lol…that was not my takeaway. I was thinking that the differences aren’t really that substantial in any group, and if you really wanted to focus on public health, you should spend more time on access to care and compliance with the interventions that we know actually work. In the ten year study, the participants had 1/2 the cardiac events of the general clinic population, probably because they were more compliant with medication and follow up. There are tons of interventions that really do work and help people stay healthy. Hopefully, more studies like this will come out and popular opinion and doctors opinions will change. [/quote] Mortality can be misleading. Our medical advances have been great. People can live long lives with modern medicine. The chronic conditions, complications; treatment and management of issues related to obesity and health care costs associated are huge [/quote]
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