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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ivies, Duke, Chicago, MIT, Notre Dame, Stanford, Hopkins.

I have witnessed for the last ten years the absolute smartest over-achiever ambitious Catholic boys and girls go to Notre Dame. Top 5 overall students in their class at selective prep schools. Maybe its standards were weak 10 or 20 or 30 years ago, but these days it's only admitting brilliant kids in the very top of their class.

I personally do not consider Northwestern, Vanderbilt or Emory to be elite. And while I do genuinely respect Wash U, it has basically zero name rec. And Berkeley is a over-enrolled degree mill full of cutthroat strivers, it's only romanticized by alums and boomers who still think it's the 60s.[/quote]

Interesting. Back when I was in HS in the 1980s, the kids from my HS who went to ND were smart and well rounded and very Catholic - they were great kids but not akin to the ones going to ivies.

My only recent exposure is a friend’s daughter, who fits exactly the descriptors above. Smart but didn’t take the “most” rigorous classes, talented and hardworking but not the star of any team/activities, and of course a strong Catholic faith. A lovely girl for sure, but a better student from her class (in terms of grades, classes taken and SAT score), her own mom described the ofher student as such, went to Georgetown. [/quote]

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