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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Both good at the easier majors. NW is better. Both not good for the difficult majors.[/quote]

What?  NU is excellent at the so called difficult majors. [/quote]

I think you'll find that the East Coast self-absorbedness of many of the posters on DCUM means they just immediately assume a school in so-called "fly-over country" could be as strong as Northwestern actually is. I'm originally from Michigan and it's strange to even see Northwestern being compared to UVA in the first place, with no offense intended to UVA. They're just very different schools by nature.[/quote]

What? I'm from the Northeast and Northwestern (and Michigan) were both hot colleges [b]20 years ago with top 10% kids. 
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UVA, not so much. Only one kid went there - a LAX nut. If anything, people from the Northeast looked down on schools in the South. Particularly public schools. 
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Times have changed.  With NU at $81K a year and UVA at $31K (we paid $16K last year because DD was off campus), in-state options are far more attractive, especially after some families' savings were decimated by COVID and jobs lost.  We banked the difference and can now afford to send DD to Oxford.  The UVA professors wrote amazing letters of recommendation for her.  https://news.virginia.edu/content/record-number-uva-scholars-receive-fulbrights-0.[/quote]

Y[b]es, if parents aren't willing to pay for OOS tuition, then all of the in-state schools look much better.  :lol: 
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For most, it has nothing to do with willingness.  We saved and saved but we still can't afford $81K in after tax dollars (almost $150K for us), x 4 years x 2 kids.  We would have to make 600K to pay for one child to go to Northwestern.  For two, it's $1.2 million.  So don't lol until you've walked a mile in my shoes.[/quote]

Why are you continually bombarding this thread even after saying that you "don't know anything about Northwestern" ? We get it, you chose UVA in-state. Gold star for you!

Times like these I wish we could just close a thread... but part of me also loves seeing just how crazy DCUM threads can get. Lol!

[b]In sum, Northwestern is a better and more prestigious school than UVA in most regards. [b]Northwestern is ranked #9, while UVA is ranked #26. [I](I am only invoking rankings to bring some ordinal orderliness to this winding war of word[/b]s.)[/i] HOWEVER, if you are a Virginian, UVA is a very compelling alternative.[/b]

Everyone happy now?[/quote]

You can't compare a private university to a public.  The more accurate USN&WR ranking to use for UVA is "Top Public University" where UVA ranks no. 4 after UCLA, Berkely and Michigan.  https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public[/quote]

[b]You certainly can compare them. People compare them all the time. I mean, we're comparing them right now. That's the whole point of this thread.[/quote][/b]

The PP is clearly talking about the use of the USN&WR rankings.  Ranking all universities in the U.S. is useless and not specifying private v public is also useless.  That
s why USN&WR breaks down the rankings into "all public universities", just like it offers rankings of small privates, best value, best regional, etc.  If you are going to cite to the ranking most advantageous to your argument you should expect someone to counter with the more accurate ranking.  And it is true that you can't compare in ranking services publics and privates.  The endowment issue alone separates the entities.  The state flagships have a completely different mission than the privates. And funding.  And in-state/OOS system.  USN&WR understands this so provides the rankings of just public universities.  So it is disingenuous to cite to the overall ranking and claim Northwestern is at whatever and UVA at 26.  For ranking purposes you can't compare Harvard to UVA.  Or UCLA or Berkeley.  It's apples and oranges.  Which is why Northwestern is $81K a year and UVA instate, all room and board added in, at $30K.[/quote]

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