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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even with all the talk of financial aid obscures the large middle ground demographics that used to be able to afford expensive private colleges in the past, the upper middle classes (or lower upper middle class if we want to narrow it more specifically) are now priced out - they don't get financial aid or only a token amount, and [b]they can't really cover the full tuition without enormous financial sacrifice that is not worth it at that level[/b]. [/quote]

Your part in bold: "worth it" is subjective, and you'd be better off just saying "I can afford it but I don't think it is worth it".  That's completely acceptable.

[quote]Funnily enough, [b]all the defensive posters[/b] talking about the amazing financial aids at the Ivies don't talk about it relative to their own kids. Did their kids get amazing packages? Or [b]are they just making an assumption without firsthand experience[/b]? There are certainly those who get full or substantial financial packages but the funny thing is that package offers can and do vary widely between the Ivies for admitted students and that alone tells you something about not taking it for granted anyone with a HHI under x amount is getting a full ride, or even with a HHI of 150 or whatever they'll get the aid they need to make it work. [/quote]

Again to the parts in bold: They are people who have done the research, run the NPCs, and quite probably prepared for the occurrence.

Personally I am full pay at an Ivy and a NESCAC.  Yeah I'd love to have a beach house but that is not what I saved for during the last 20 years. And I feel good about it. My choice, you make yours.[/quote]

Cool it Marie Antoinette.

Being judgmental about other people's lifestyle decisions or career decisions that are not "bad" decisions is petty and silly. As is dismissing other people's pointing out the flaws in the higher education economic model. The whole model is morally bankrupt if it demands this degree of financial sacrifice that could nearly bankrupt a family. It's effectively robbing the rich to pay the poor and telling the donut hole "middle" to suck it up without any sympathy.

Of course many in the donut middle are looking at other options and making things work, but trying to shame people for talking about the increasingly unsustainable world of higher education costs only makes you, well, Marie Antoinette. [/quote]

Your reading comprehension is bad and you don't understand the history of the French revolution either.

My post says clearly: "My choice, you make yours."  I respect any choice WRT what something is worth.

My post also answers a question (I assume) you asked about whether the opposing side had any experience.

Where do you see judgment?  [u]You [/u]are the one (unsuccessfully) throwing pejoratives.
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NP. I think your insinuation that people could afford the most expensive colleges if only they didn’t buy that beach house (or luxury cars, or whatever) is where the pushback is. I don’t have a beach house, or a luxury car (love my Honda), my kitchen just screams 1992 (when the house was built), and so on. Still couldn’t have saved the $80K needed to go to Amherst or Yale.[/quote]

Sorry, but I was speaking of my own decision only. [b] I would like a beach house. [/b] I could have bought one.  I didn't. Me.  No insinuation.  My choices.  I don't know how many times I have to say it.

As for you: [b]What did the NPC for Amherst or Yale say when you entered your data?[/b][/quote]

Not PP, and I would like a beach house, too - but cannot afford one.

The NPC for Yale (where my DC was admitted) for us said $68K.  Yale offered $5500 in student loans and work-study.  That's it.[/quote]

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