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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am a different PP. I don't think Bernie or Warren are electable. Bernie and his supporters will turn off a lot of the electorate. Warren doesn't really resonate with people and she seems really to prioritize New England (I am in California and I've heard multiple people here talk about how she doesn't know or care about the West, for instance, and I suspect the same is true in the Midwest). Biden has enormous baggage.

The problem is that Democrats need a lot of voter turnout in battleground states to win. And I don't see a single Democratic candidate that is inspiring enough to win that turnout.

It gets me really depressed.[/quote]

Assuming you are being sincere - I think don't lose this race before we're even in it.

Republicans are weak. They have an incredibly weak candidate who seems to be running on a culture war platform because he doesn't really have anything else; his presidency has been a great circus and otherwise a great failure. Democrats won in 2018 by focusing on what we can do for people - how we can help them.

I think we actually have a pretty good chance in 2020. 2016 still looms large, and I think it's making many of us look for all the reasons we're going to lose again. But these racist rallies Trump has been holding are actually giving me quite a bit of hope that we could win. He's not campaigning on any kind of record - he's not drawing in anyone new. This is not the moment he's going to start acting presidential. He's going bigger, more extreme - and I really do think that [b]a Democrat who can offer hope, and offer a real platform of how we will give people things they need, [/b]stands a great chance. [/quote]

PP here. The problem is that there aren't any candidates who can do the bolded, as far as I can see. There needs to be a candidate who can drive voter turnout in battleground states. Right now, I don't see it.[/quote]

Yeah this is my concern too.  I cannot stand Trump and am pretty liberal so I will vote for whomever gets the nomination. But I’m not the type of voter that needs convincing- regardless of how the popular vote shakes out, unfortunately this election is going to come down to a handful of swing states, mostly in the Midwest. The Dem candidates need to be honest with themselves- do voters in these states want the type of revolutionary change they are advocating for? Are they upset *enough* about Trump’s behavior?  Because they may not approve of it, but if they are doing well in this economy and nervous about shakeups to the healthcare system, they may decide not to rock the boat.  I think the swing voters tend to be more easily swayed by how things are going in the moment.  These are the folks that don’t feel strongly enough about particular issues to always vote along party lines and are more likely to switch sides when a recession hits, etc.

And I don’t know anyone who voted for Trump in 2016 that has regretted their choice, outwardly anyway.

I really like Buttigieg, I’m just not sure he has enough experience yet. Personally a Klobuchar-Buttigieg ticket would be my choice.[/quote]

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