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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Exactly, the theory expressed above might work for a couple of ES, but it doesn't explain at all whats going on in every ES school in Silver Spring. SS is full of people in all categories who make far less than 250K and if that is the case it should be reflected in achievement if SES is so important.[/quote]

At the [i]population[/i] level, some of that is reflected in test scores and college matriculation rates. But at the [i]individual[/i] level, kids who are demographically similar perform similarly across the county. So a MC/UMC kid with engaged and educated parents will have the same outcome whether their parents stay in their "starter house" in Takoma Park, or leverage to the eyeballs to move west. The outcomes are the same for those kids because the advantages that are conferred by engaged and educated parents are the same.

No one is arguing that Silver Spring schools are full to the rafters with kids whose parents make $250K or more. Most Silver Spring and Takoma Park schools are economically and racially integrated, which residents view as a feature, not a bug.

I also don't want to overlook high achieving kids whose parents aren't high earners. We have many of those on the east side as well. But if we're talking about an apples to apples comparison of middle class kids with good supports, the data shows those kids are going to do well no matter what and it is neither necessary nor preferable to choose segregated schools in order to "ensure" good outcomes.

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Again, I get your point and I don't have first hand knowledge of the exact background of everyone living in certain clusters but the fact that the entire population of both Einstein/Wheaton compared to Churchill is virtually within the margin of error of the test is quite striking if you are coming from a perspective that SES matters.

Churchill 1257 
 Wheaton 1173 
Einstein 1148
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Those are not the SAT scores of the entire population of these schools but rather the SAT scores of the white students at these schools per table A8.  (Perhaps that is what you meant to write)
https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

What is the margin of error for the SAT?  
Also want to point out that Wheaton has a couple of wonderful application based academic programs that pull from the DCC and that might skew the results upwards.[/quote]

Of course it is, that's the population we are speaking about this entire thread.

The margin of error for SAT is about 60 but individuals can swing about 120 points.

Lastly, the signature programs are in plenty of high schools but I wouldn't expect this small number of students to skew the whole school significantly.[/quote]

I don't think Wheaton's signature programs could skew the DCC scores at all because I thought they're limited to students from the DCC.

Further, a fairly thorough analysis of the impact of Blair's vaunted magnet program on their average showed a mere 2.3% because the total number of out of boundary students involved was fairly small.[/quote]

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