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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working. [/quote]

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals.  It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university -  and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.  [/quote]

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate. [/quote]
+1  Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.[/quote]

Trump supports the current lawsuit against Harvard.  [/quote]

Do YOU support anti-Asian American systemic racial discrimination?[/quote]

Trump and his administration support the lawsuit against Harvard -  he does not support anti-Asian American systematic racial discrimination.  In fact, he supports justice, equality, freedom, and prosperity for all Americans.

Unemployment has been the lowest in memory, including for African-Americans.  The stock market's been up at least 30% since his inauguration.    [/quote]
oh please oh please, I am not happy about the discrimination of Asian Americans, [b]but I also know that Trump is no friend to a group of people who are largely recent immigrants, made up of chain migration[/b].  Why do you suppose support of Trump by Asian Americans is low if Asian Americans thought Trump was "on their side"?  [b]This group used to vote R. No longer[/b].[/quote]

Wrong and wrong.

Trump married an immigrant.  And his in-laws are part of the chain migration.

Don't overgeneralize about Asians.  Ask Japanese if they used to be Republicans who only recently walked away because of Trump. [/quote]
Trump married a WHITE recent immigrant.  Clearly, you aren't paying attention.  Trump and many of his base don't mind white chain migration. They do mind non white ones.  Look up the alt rights stance on immigration - they only want to limit it to white Europeans.  And yes, many of Trump's base and folks who work for him are part of the alt right, if not directly then at least on the fringe of it, a la Bannon and Miller who is the architect of Trump's immigration policy.

And please, the Japanese are not the only Asians, nor are most of them recent immigrants. Japanese immigration topped decades ago, I'm talking 1900-1920s.  In CA, the majority of Japanese (and I knew many) were not recent immigrants back in the 80s unlike the Koreans and Vietnamese.  The Chinese have been coming here pretty steadily for a hundred years.

http://immigrationtounitedstates.org/663-japanese-immigrants.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/obama-asian-americans-voted-republican-gop-wants-bring-them-back-n873401
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To be sure, available data show that Clinton prevailed over Trump with Asian-American and Pacific Islander voters.

Moreover, [b]a leftward shift has also been afoot among Asian-American registered voters since 2012[/b], according to findings from a Spring 2016 report released by nonprofits APIAVote and Asian Americans Advancing Justice | AAJC, along with AAPI Data, a program led by Ramakrishnan.

[b]But in 1992, things were different. Nearly 3 in 5 Asian Americans that year voted for President George H.W. Bush, a Republican[/b], according to Cornell’s Roper Center.[/quote]

Also, note how the few Asian Americans in national politics are mostly Dems.  Very few Asian Americans who are R on the national level. Now why would that be, I wonder.

Please don't attempt to lecture an Asian American immigrant about the Asian American immigrant experience and politics. That's like me lecturing African Americans about slavery and what it did to their culture and social structure.  Of course, there are Asian Americans who are still Rs and voted for Trump; just as there are some Black and Hispanics do.  But, stats show that as a group, they vote Dem, as do other minority groups and educated whites.[/quote]

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