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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When you have infertility it is always a struggle for others to understand this is a medical condition and not say a lifestyle choice of wanting to have kids in your 50 s (generally speaking of course). We need ART to have children... and many of us from young ages. .. and no amount of what we can do (eating well etc) will change that.  There is so much offensive bias against us.  So I think we are even more protective of ART being medically guided because it could open a Pandora ' s box If ART is accessible to the non infertile to do things like gender selection. Imagine what would happen in China!  I remember reading something where someone did not choose donor egg because it felt too much like the handmaid s tale. Well some people cannot birth children of their own without donor egg so that mentality is very hurtful and we have to fight against it always and ... say hey...I need this medically.  So again if donor egg or other ART becomes about vanity we lose something... as it does become handmaids taleish. So while I would not say I would never do what op wants. .. if I had NINE embryos maybe I would., I am uncomfortable with this direction for ART.[/quote]

8:16 again.  If the OP were creating embryos to select sex, then this argument would apply, but her embryos are already sitting out there and just need to be tested.  She isn't going to transfer 9 more embryos, so embryos will not be transferred regardless of whether she chooses which embryo to transfer or the embryologist does. [/quote]

Not entirely right: with ART, you pick the embryos that have the best chance of resulting in a baby.  Dr chooses that for a medical reason, and in many cases on this board, we are so desperate to have a child we would not risk NOT picking the best embryo.  I'm not saying I wouldn't do what OP proposes, but it is different than how decisions are made from a purely ART perspective.  OP is introducing vanity into an otherwise medical procedure.  And that is a moral slippery slope.  [/quote]

I'm the 8:16 PP.  Once you've done the genetic testing, the normals are all considered equal, at least at my clinic, so choosing between a genetically normal male embryo and a genetically normal female embryo is a wash, medically speaking.  At my clinic the embryos are numbered and they just go down the list (e.g., first transfer would be with normal embryo #1, etc.).[/quote]

I'm the poster above.  So are you telling me a doctor just flips a coin on the one to pick?  I would be surprised if that is the case and a medical choice is not made.  But let's say it is literally a coin flip..so as you say, why not let the parent's flip the coin as they would like it to fall.  I still say--and I think you have to admit there is something morally risky about gender selection.  Again, I use the example of China and other cultures where infanticide exists.  Imagine if gender selection were available to all? You could end up with a culture of boys only, or boys to the highest payer. That being said, I am 100% not saying I, or, OP should not do this.  But I think you have to be honest that it is opening a Pandora's box and I hope those in charge (medical ethical boards) are careful in approving this.[/quote]

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