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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The article is very on point.  A university level math professor is not going to dumb down their curriculum for the incoming crop of story telling math students who draw circles for simple calculations. They are not there to hold students hands and its still a very sink or swim discipline. Schools have created tracks such as math for non-science majors for those who come in with MCPS type skills. Other schools do offer some remedial catch up courses but the trend is just to advise them away from the STEM fields that require actual math for science majors.

[b]2.0 will give you enough math for community college[/b] and tries to apply the same labels so parents think their kids are still being well prepared in Algebra, Geometry and Calculus. The schools can call courses whatever they want. They can spend an entire semester finger painting and call it Algebra, Some people will act like sheep and buy this. Others will object and find alternative math education.

What is so sad at a broader level is that math is not impossible and its quite interesting if students are given a good foundation to explore and practice the discipline which they are not allowed to do in 2.0. The very math oriented students from highly educated parents or kids coming out of private will still be prepared if they wish to pursue STEM careers, the rest will not. We really don't need anymore communication or education majors. [/quote]

2.0 will get you to calculus in 12th grade for on-grade-level math, and to calculus in 11th grade for above-grade-level math. What are the math requirements for community college?

Or are you saying that MCPS is calling it calculus, and AP is calling calculus, but yet it isn't really? [/quote]

I only know that the tech companies are full of foreign born workers. That is because the STEM majors and graduate schools are full of foreign born students. [/quote]

The evidence that math education under Curriculum 2.0 in MCPS is lousy is that the tech companies are full of foreign-born workers on H-1B visas?[/quote]

H1-B visas are more a cost/control issue IMO.[/quote]

Really, you think there are lots of Americans available but just too expensive? How do you explain graduate school then? The foreigners don't pay tuition. They get fellowships to come here to study. [/quote]

Some of the foreign students are given grants by their government to attend graduate school here, especially in STEM fields (my cousin did from his home country).

Also, in some countries, the college level education doesn't cover General Ed like we do here.  Here, you have to take x # of credits in GE (usually adds up to 2 yrs). In some countries, college level education is specifically focused on your major.  So, if you are a Comp Sci major, you spend the entire x # of yrs in college just focusing on that, including math.  Some may say that is better (to not spend time on GE in college), but some may say it's better for a person to be more well rounded, so GEs are essential.

I'm in an IT field.   H1Bs *are* mostly due to cost control, but not all. Asian countries are producing a lot more people in STEM than we are.  There are schools just for IT, and they just churn them out.  These countries just focus more on STEM much more than the US, and Asians flock to STEM fields in the US (for various reasons).  This is part of the reason why high tech workers are full of Asians.

Also, HS students in Asia spend *a lot* more time in school and/or after school tutoring classes than kids here. In Korea, for example, the after school tutoring classes are a multi-billion dollar industry. Their top tutoring guy makes like $4 million/yr.   Another reason.[/quote]

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