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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]For example, in the early 80's, I wanted to major in journalism. My dad said Americans don't want to see a yellow face on tv -- this was when the Asian population was a lot smaller than it is now. Now, he sees them everywhere on tv so he says, "Oh yea, you could've been a great journalist". I majored in business instead. See, [b]it's about what you perceive to be attainable[/b]. I'm generalizing here. [/quote]

This.

The key ingredient is expectation, and the study in the NYT piece says that, but almost as an afterthought.

I wish I could find the study about gender bias in science and how its perpetuated in the women themselves.  Even when you're fully capable and above average, it's hard to fight the perception that just being who you are makes you subpar - especially when there's data backing it up.  A female student in a class of full of men doesn't extend herself for fear of proving everyone right, so she's perceived to be lacking.

Some bias is not even possible to admit, but low expectation is everywhere for a black kid. It starts at an early age before they're even aware of the assumptions being made about their background and their "preparedness for learning", and just grows along with their cognizance of it.[/quote]

Double THIS.  I see several successful Black families in my neighborhood, and their kids will probably go on to some white collar profession as well.  The Black kids in the poor ghettos only see drug dealers, gang bangers and pimps. Same goes for welfare moms/children.  When a child sees that's how life is (living on welfare) and that is all they know, then that's how the child will end up.

There was an op-ed piece on one of the news sites about how this young girl from a really poor neighborhood was trying to go to college, but in her neighborhood there was more information about getting welfare assistance if you were an unwed teen mom than there was about how to get into college.  She said the only reason she even thought about going to college was b/c her grandmother (although uneducated herself) encouraged her to go.   She had to go on something like a 2hr bus ride to get to a community college and also work 40 hrs/week to pay for it.
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