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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People are born bad.  We are not good and don't let your feelings cloud the fact that we are all "me first". Could you imagine a child raised with absolutely no parent contact to teach right and wrong?  Most of right and wrong we believe is based on having a civil society and making us comfortable not being moral . It's like loving your children... We love them because we get a reward too... We don't love others children. 
Once you understand that we all are bad you can understand why Christ was sacrificed . We are in a dire situation but God has given us a free gift.  We just have to admit we are bad and accept the gift ... We don't have to do anything else. Most people don't think they need the gift because they think they are "good people ", lol ... Like " I'm good .. I recycle ". Once you come to grips with the fact that you and everybody else is bad it all comes together. Btw .. If your church is pushing you away just find a small group to read the bible and discuss deep matters made up of people you can trust. Even just one other is fine and quit that other church. 
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People are not "born bad".  We are good.  Every single person on this planet has good in them.  In some people it is really hard to see, but it's there.  Why on earth would a God who is by definition, the ultimate "good", create bad people?  He didn't.  He can't.  He is good.  When we say "love" "good" "peace".... We are simply using other words for what some people call God.  God cannot create "bad" because God is light and love.

God allowed the world to form and put humans on it to learn.  We grow towards "good" (enlightenment, heaven,....) as we are challenged. That's why we are here - to learn to love so that someday we can be joined with that all-powerful, all -loving good.

I don't know much -  but I know that humans are not born "bad".  And I know that a universal loving force for good governs our reality.  All humans are part of "God" and therefore inherently good.[/quote].

So since we are naturally good , why did God think it was necessary to have his only begotten son ripped to shreds and sacrificed?[/quote]

The evangelical view of Christ's death is very different than most.  Christ died as a demonstration of perfect love.  He didn't die to literally save you from sin.  How does that even make sense?  Christ's death demonstrated perfect, sacrificial love.  God showed his love for humanity in a way that we could understand.  He sent Jesus as a living, breathing example of His perfect love.   We see God (light, love) through the way Jesus lived while on earth and in the way he died. Jesus is an example of what we as humans are supposed to strive for - perfect love, compassion, justice, humility, generosity, ....and in the end, a willingness to give up one's life for another.

I freely admit that I could be wrong.  Like all of us, I am on a journey.  However, I am absolutely 100% positive that the evangelical Christians are dead wrong.  God is all good.  All light.  All love.  He did not create people "bad".  We have free will, but we are inherently good.  Every single person on this planet is inherently good and equally worthy.  When people finally figure that out, our world will be a much different place.[/quote]

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