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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]does anyone have info about how good these programs are. My nephew is engineering CS and interested in M&T and my son is interetsed in Huntsman program next year.  They are juniors in MCPS magnet. Do you know anyone who has done these, how competetive are these ( presumably extremely competetive comparable to HYPMS ) and how are the outcomes. are they worth the 90K tag? shud they apply to Upenn CAS and SEAS instead for better chances of admit[/quote]

M&T and Huntsman should NOT be part of your consideration.  You can apply to them, don't count on it too much.

These are dual degree programs.  Fine if you got in.  But you can double major at anything you want once you got in Penn, which is the critical part.  You can double major at SEAS and CAS for example.  I doubt it if there is any difference from these formal dual degree programs.  Chill.[/quote]

CAS plus SEAS is the Viper dual degree program. Yes you could apply to do an uncoordinated dual with each but it is extremely difficult and more classes /more work than the Viper program and none of the perks. Seas and wharton uncoordinated is more classes than M&T and so on for the other Dual degrees LSM and Huntsman.
The structured dual degree programs are very difficult to get admitted to but for those that do, it is completed in 4 years plus it comes with funding and other perks (varies depending on the Dual) .
The Stem duals have high numbers of international students, many  on financial aid: these are some of the brightest stem students in the world.

Penn seas as a single degree has an overall admit rate of 3% or just below. The duals that are a part of SEAS are even more competitive. 
Just look at these boards: everyone and their stray cat wants Engineering these days, especially top students who target T10/elite types. 
Penn Seas alone will get a student anywhere they want to go if they do not get Viper or M&T.[/quote]

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