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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the second time in my career I was asked to do something that I refused to do because I think it’s illegal and my managers all seemed baffled by my concern. I am neurodivergent but not in a way that’s always apparent - I don’t know, but suspect, that’s at play.

(1) About 25 year ago I was supposed to get something like 3,000 color copies of a magazine article (let’s say Time magazine) that mentioned our company so we could send it out with a letter

Kinkos refused to do the job because it violated copyright law and so did FedEx for the same reason. My mangers instructed me to do it, I refused. They said things like “you’re not going to get in trouble” it won’t matter and I said I’m just not comfortable.  I think they were right but also if I care and they don’t they shouldn’t do it.

(2) the second was being told to help another project - maybe 2 hrs of work - when my authorization during shutdown says I can’t help other projects. I said I would but I needed something in writing to confirm management agreed that this was included in the work I was authorized to do. Instead of me agreeing or them putting it in writing after a day they sent an email “thanks much for your hard work. Considering the push, and what excellent shape your project is in, please do any final steps you deem necessary and go on furlough.”
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You are difficult. Look techincially in college and grad school I would go to library and use xerox machines to copy things. Technically that is what you were doing and no one cares. However, you are correct putting that printed copy in a commercial mailing for for potential financial gain is a copyright violation. But you were not doing that you were just making copies.

And project stuff you are playing a game of being difficult. I started a govt type job and they have a quarterly town hall. My new boss said it was week before I started (on phone) and although he does not have authority to ask me to go, I cant get paid if I decided to attend on my own it be great chance to meet everyone and get overview of priorities next three months and meet your new staff. There will be breakfast served and just two hours. WTF would I ask him to put that in writting. I went, was a great chance. Otherwise I would not have met my co-workers, got a update for three months. It is common. Of course he cant make me go.

I have a difficult staff right now. She makes a stink with is it required and can you confirm with anything. Meanwhile She drives me nuts as fights everything and she is like a greyhound dog. Crazy lady we had a breakfast meeting before work, a lunch meeting wanted to bill OT or get comp time. I said then skip it. Or my favorite it is always not her job unless in the job description. So I do her job sometimes as too much headache. Why I dont know. We litterally had one lunch meeting and one breakfast meeting last year. She did not go. She must be like you. It says since she is on the clock if mandatory she must get paid and she refuses to go unless mandatory. No the the free breakfast at xmas time where we give our prizes and gifts for 45 minutes is not OT.        [/quote]

Sounds like you like to take advantage of people.[/quote]

Not me these are HR things. She won’t go to Xmas party, company picnic type things unless paid. She is so crazy someone left we did a lunch I paid for and she put in one hour OT as she worked through lunch. Funny part it was her friend leaving, she suggested we do lunch for him and I expensed it.

This is hill she wants to die in like poster

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Op here If HR told her it may be illegal to attend the holiday party, and she could either accept the risk personally or get written permission from you, a different manager told her to be careful about it and make sure she knew it was okay to attend, and the union told her absolutely not to attend and you refused to give her permission in writing to attend should she still go? Because that was my experience. Tiny thing; but the refusal to say we all agreed it wasn’t a big deal for me to attend the holiday party made me anxious. Let’s add that the employee can’t check whether anyone else at her level is going - or would go - to the party because, none are available. [/quote]

They are not in union. She is just an idiot. And she goes to her Husbands events. Just not ours. She will brag about how great her husbands xmas party was. Funny part ours is better than what she described. But she has in her head she wont go to anything uness forced. And it is crazy stuff. Our boss got promoted and we cake and great cookies and going to do a 15 minute thing. I told her point blank lets go you have to go. It is right there 20 feet your desk She went got slice of cake and while boss was thanking everyone she walked out. She then put in her review she attended a company event.   [/quote]

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