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People who have made lasting contributions started out with a high level of intelligence/talent and then put in the hard work and persistence required. All the hard work in the world will go nowhere without underlying intelligence/talent. 
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These days, it's difficult to find schools that truly reflect authentic merit and intelligence. There's simply too much parental interference and over-packaging. Maybe even the teaching faculty are not too far from _branding_[/quote]

Maybe so, but the post you’re replying to is about people who make lasting contributions to society, with[b] no reference to schools. [/b]The school someone attends, or doesn’t attend, has nothing to do with what kind of contribution they make to society.

The post above is saying that the people who make lasting contributions have hard work/persistence [b]and[/b] intelligence/talent, not one or the other. 
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I would believe this if colleges stop holistic admissions for the sake of merits[/quote]

[b]Again, the post you are replying to is not about colleges. [/b]Simply the fact that great and lasting contributions to society require more than just hard work/persistence. A great contributor needs to work very hard [b]and[/b] also be very intelligent/talented. Hard work can not make up for a lower IQ.

Nothing to do with college or college admissions. Just facts of life.

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Uh, the OP posted it in the Colleges and Universities forum.[/quote]

Sure, but this poster is just pointing out the fact that whether or not someone has talent or works hard has nothing to do with with what college they go to. 
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That’s not their conclusion at all. They are trying to argue (in the college forum - probably because their kid is not going to do well in the college sweepstakes so are trying to justify their existence) that those who contribute to society didn’t necessarily go to a great school or have a high IQ.

Ok. Insipid post for the day. Of course there are some people like that. But, of course, the very high testers, IQ and GPA kids at top schools  will trampoline out of tgeir top
Institutions to do great things … much more likely than out of Cal State Fullerton [/quote]

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