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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Israel has a right to exist just like apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany. [/quote]

This.

Frankly I don't care about the mere name of a country. Call it Israel, call it Palestine, call it Semiticstan, or whatever. But if you're telling me that a country (whatever you want to call it) has a right to operate an ethno-nationalist state that displaces those who don't qualify, and has different rules and laws for those who don't happen to meet the requirements of an ethno-nationalist state, then I think you are not only part of the problem, but that you're an awful human being.

A democratic state that provides equal laws, rights, opportunities and protections for all? Call it Israel, and it'd be great. But that's not what Israel is now, nor what it was created as. And I have no problem saying that Israel in it's current form should never, ever have been created and should absolutely be destroyed. [/quote]
Your description could be applied to most of the countries in the Middle East.

They are almost all ethno nationalist countries that long ago ethnically cleansed their Jews. Some of them still have actual slaves, with an estimated 1.7 million slaves in the region. Last I checked slavery was worse than apartheid.

By your logic they should all cease to exist and be destroyed.

If the Palestinian leadership had their way they’d drive off the Israelis too and form their own ethno nationalist state. In the process they’d likely kill hundreds of thousands if not millions of Jews.

Is this the solution we’re looking for?[/quote]

Oh of course much of the MidEast is royally messed up. The way many of those countries treat non-Arabs is horrific. They may, in fact, treat a Jew better than they would a Muslim from Pakistan. . I think of Saudi and Israel as two sides of the same amoral coin. But two wrongs don't make a right, and Israel is making it very clear that they are fiercely competing for the price of the most horrific and inhuman place in the Middle East. 
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