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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m not entirely sure what you are asking OP.

Is it this? I’m in VA, and there is a perception here that the current USNWR ranking underrate WM, because they stopped considering the places WM shines, like small classes for a public and undergrad teaching.  And that outside of CS/engineering it should rank above VT.  WM kids entering stats are almost identical to UVA’s and much higher than VTs, and kids that can easily get into VT Arts and Sciences often cannot get into WM.  Really, WM should be evaluated as a LAC because who they are is a mismatch with the ranking criteria.   But their law school and a couple other things prevent this.

Also that *for arts & sciences* JMU and VT are close to being peers and kid preference and specific course of study place a big role in a kid deciding which to choose.  But, they aren’t ranked against each other at all in USNWR because VT is “national” under USNWR and JMU is “regional”.

So, in general, USNWR does kind of a hatchet job on the top 4-5 VA public colleges because kids consider WM and UVA side by side or VT and JMU, but USNWR ranking are out of whack with what’s happening on the ground. [/quote]

Agree with everything said here.

JMU is no longer a regional university, though. It is not in the national category and their being ranked below GMU is another example of a huge mismatch between perception/reputation/reality and their methodology. [/quote]

Your JMU/GMU example (not in VA) was one that prompted me to start this. I had inkling of this but wasn’t sure. [/quote]

Yes. I think this is because JMU is very  often the second choice for people who didn't get into VTech, so their student body is elevated compared to places like GMU or ODU or CNU whose students were potentially rejected from JMU level places in addition to everywhere above it in reputation. JMU is one level in the food chain above.

I think for people applying to JMU their in-state choice list is probably something like:
- UVA (maybe applying just because or not applying at all)
- VTech (probably also peers like penn state)
- JMU
- Everywhere else[/quote]

I agree that this could potentially be because of GMU's location but I think JMU also has a reputation as being a "nicer" school (nicer facilities/more money, etc.) or that it's up-and-coming and getting more popular/harder to get in (which I think is at least a little bit true).[/quote]

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