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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.

For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now. [/quote]

This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.[/quote]

You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).

Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings

2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th. 
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.

Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.

With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players). 
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Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?

The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.[/quote]

What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.

How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean? [/quote]

We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well.  You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.[/quote]

All they literally do is work on individual skills for the u9/10 age groups. Every practice, all practice. Most of the “talent” that does leave is because they want to win and that typically doesn’t happen a lot with the girls’ younger age groups. That and unknowledgable parents still think McLean offers something more like it used to 5 years ago. [/quote]

This.  I have multiple players in Vienna / Brave / Union.

You can say many things about the quality of Vienna's coaches, and I certainly don't love all of them, but lack of skill development at young ages is a tough sell to people who have experienced different clubs and watched the NOVA soccer scene for a while.  Historically, Vienna girls were actually viewed as strong at young ages (with the same coaches they still have), then talent would leave at U13 to go play ECNL elsewhere.  2 years ago they created an ECNL pathway, and they have been much more successful in retaining talent in the middle and high school years.

I guess the argument is that all of these successful middle and high school Vienna girls succeeded in spite of the development they got at uLittle?  That they basically got "worse than house" coaching, yet with private trainers or HP Elite went on to become better than the girls who got such strong coaching at GFR and McLean?[/quote]

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