Anonymous
09/06/2024 09:09
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vienna admins working hard to sell the club. That’s all you have to know about how it’s going. I say go where you get the best vibes for your kid.
Definitely not a club admin. Ask anyone that has a u9/10 daughter at the club. Skills practice for the majority of every practice. Maybe you don’t agree with the approach but it’s what they do.
We know a lot of people who are at U9/U10 and they don’t agree with your opinion. Very different experience on the situation there. We left earlier, but we also know people that were at U11/U12 and they absolutely hated it. I guess for some it may be a good experience, maybe the coaching staff likes your daughter and family. For most others that are not favored seem to have a different experience. Perhaps understand it from their point of view and why they leave. That might explain the mass exodus from your program at Vienna.
It’s not an opinion. It is fact. The majority of u9/10 Vienna girls’ practices are spent on skill development. It cannot be disputed because it is a fact.
Like every club, there are a number of families that don’t feel appreciated because they aren’t selected or moved to a higher team or playing time/position concerns. I understand their point of view and even agree that they should go where it is best for their kid, but this is not something that is unique to Vienna. Every club has this dynamic. Some are just better at selling false hopes and promises.
Anonymous
09/06/2024 08:07
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vienna admins working hard to sell the club. That’s all you have to know about how it’s going. I say go where you get the best vibes for your kid.
Definitely not a club admin. Ask anyone that has a u9/10 daughter at the club. Skills practice for the majority of every practice. Maybe you don’t agree with the approach but it’s what they do.
We know a lot of people who are at U9/U10 and they don’t agree with your opinion. Very different experience on the situation there. We left earlier, but we also know people that were at U11/U12 and they absolutely hated it. I guess for some it may be a good experience, maybe the coaching staff likes your daughter and family. For most others that are not favored seem to have a different experience. Perhaps understand it from their point of view and why they leave. That might explain the mass exodus from your program at Vienna.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 20:29
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Vienna admins working hard to sell the club. That’s all you have to know about how it’s going. I say go where you get the best vibes for your kid.
Definitely not a club admin. Ask anyone that has a u9/10 daughter at the club. Skills practice for the majority of every practice. Maybe you don’t agree with the approach but it’s what they do.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 20:21
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Vienna admins working hard to sell the club. That’s all you have to know about how it’s going. I say go where you get the best vibes for your kid.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 14:33
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.
How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean?
We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well. You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.
All they literally do is work on individual skills for the u9/10 age groups. Every practice, all practice. Most of the “talent” that does leave is because they want to win and that typically doesn’t happen a lot with the girls’ younger age groups. That and unknowledgable parents still think McLean offers something more like it used to 5 years ago.
The younger girls divisions are losing players at a rapid rate. It's naive to blame "unknowledgeable" parents. It is not just top team players, it is players across all levels that are leaving by the time they hit u11/u12 teams. They have to beg house players to join because they are unable to recruit good players to their club. Word spreads fast in the soccer world and word is definitely out about Vienna. A good club would look at their leadership and see what is wrong. I would wait a couple years to let them sort out their issues before considering sending my kid.
Skills development and touches on the ball are what matters at the young ages. Not learning how to play out of the back or playing up a year only to get less touches. Not to say you don’t need those things, but it is typically peddled by the clubs all in the pursuit of winning and recruiting.
Vienna offers strong coaching at the U9/10 level for what the players need at that age. I applaud them for sticking to what they believe is important and not putting the emphasis on winning. How many conversations have there been on this very board that complains about how US soccer sucks because it is too focused on winning?
Anonymous
09/05/2024 14:08
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:I have/had kids in both VYS and MYS. VYS is better for ages under 9. At 9, 10, and 11 McLean is better. This is pertaining to development and training.
That said, it is very much based on the coach. A club is a club. It's the coach that makes the difference.
VYS is better under the age of 9? Isn't that just house league?
Anonymous
09/05/2024 12:30
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
I have/had kids in both VYS and MYS. VYS is better for ages under 9. At 9, 10, and 11 McLean is better. This is pertaining to development and training.
That said, it is very much based on the coach. A club is a club. It's the coach that makes the difference.
That said, it is very much based on the coach. A club is a club. It's the coach that makes the difference.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 11:24
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.
How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean?
We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well. You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.
All they literally do is work on individual skills for the u9/10 age groups. Every practice, all practice. Most of the “talent” that does leave is because they want to win and that typically doesn’t happen a lot with the girls’ younger age groups. That and unknowledgable parents still think McLean offers something more like it used to 5 years ago.
This. I have multiple players in Vienna / Brave / Union.
You can say many things about the quality of Vienna's coaches, and I certainly don't love all of them, but lack of skill development at young ages is a tough sell to people who have experienced different clubs and watched the NOVA soccer scene for a while. Historically, Vienna girls were actually viewed as strong at young ages (with the same coaches they still have), then talent would leave at U13 to go play ECNL elsewhere. 2 years ago they created an ECNL pathway, and they have been much more successful in retaining talent in the middle and high school years.
I guess the argument is that all of these successful middle and high school Vienna girls succeeded in spite of the development they got at uLittle? That they basically got "worse than house" coaching, yet with private trainers or HP Elite went on to become better than the girls who got such strong coaching at GFR and McLean?
Anonymous
09/05/2024 09:52
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.
How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean?
We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well. You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.
All they literally do is work on individual skills for the u9/10 age groups. Every practice, all practice. Most of the “talent” that does leave is because they want to win and that typically doesn’t happen a lot with the girls’ younger age groups. That and unknowledgable parents still think McLean offers something more like it used to 5 years ago.
The younger girls divisions are losing players at a rapid rate. It's naive to blame "unknowledgeable" parents. It is not just top team players, it is players across all levels that are leaving by the time they hit u11/u12 teams. They have to beg house players to join because they are unable to recruit good players to their club. Word spreads fast in the soccer world and word is definitely out about Vienna. A good club would look at their leadership and see what is wrong. I would wait a couple years to let them sort out their issues before considering sending my kid.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 08:56
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
I read in one of their posts that BRYC has 40 teams this year. I think once they dropped ECNL and the mess ecnl brings, they are in a better place to focus on youth soccer again.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 08:08
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.
How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean?
We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well. You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.
All they literally do is work on individual skills for the u9/10 age groups. Every practice, all practice. Most of the “talent” that does leave is because they want to win and that typically doesn’t happen a lot with the girls’ younger age groups. That and unknowledgable parents still think McLean offers something more like it used to 5 years ago.
Anonymous
09/05/2024 00:57
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Out of the clubs in your geographic area BRYC is certainly the best option for the younger boys age groups (u9-u12). Since the breakup and exodus of NVU coaches they have brough in a new slate of coaches in these age groups and are one of the ONLY clubs in the DMV I see with a consistent methodology and style of play across their teams (both ages and A/B/C teams). The coaches are enthusiastic, and good with the kids. They have a strong focus on skill development as well as good fundamental habits and a clear structure + possession style of play. They are limited by their player pool and thus are not winning big tournaments garnering the same attention as some of the larger clubs in the area, but to the discerning eye the current BRYC program stands out amongst many of the rest in the area.
Anonymous
09/04/2024 21:15
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
What exactly do you want the youngest players to learn? How to play like City and win the treble? The youngest ages should be about skill development, not trophy chasing.
How many FVU girls are on the younger rosters that originally came from McLean?
We got our daughter out of VYS because there was NO skill development at all. NONE! I had seen better coaching in the house league and better training as well. You are missing the point of the PP, it was never about trophies, medals or what have you. We can attest to the fact that the coaching for the first four years of girls at VYS is so bad that most good players only last 2 years max. The main guy that recruits for that age will sell you on high level soccer, but all he will deliver is sub par training that drives out talent and develops mediocrity. Our daughter left years ago and has been extremely happy since. Good training, good coaches and a much better experience. I don't regret her time at Vienna because it helped us learn what to avoid in the future.
Anonymous
09/04/2024 21:12
Subject: Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Out of those clubs, I’d choose Vienna. It’s the only club out of those three that has a pathway anywhere.
Anonymous
09/04/2024 20:37
Subject: Re:Vienna, BRYC, or FPYL Soccer for travel (3rd grader)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t wait until next year. Email the clubs and ask for your child to practice with one of the teams.
For girls, Vienna is by far the strongest. For boys, BRYC used to be better, but I think their program is a bit of a mess right now.
This must have been written by someone at vys's back office. Everyone I have ever heard from says they are a dumpster fire at the elementary age girls levels. Not so much at the boys. The girls teams do not have enough talent to fill many teams or rosters and very poor coaching (a lot of run and chase style play). You are better off going to BRYC. But if your girl has any talent you should really look at McLean and/or GFR. Their locations are comparable to the other ones you mentioned and everyone knows that those are two of the better programs in that area and age group.
You clearly don’t know much about the NOVA youth soccer scene. Vienna is a drastically better club on the girls’ side than the boys’ side, and has a successful history in girls’ soccer. FVU was caused by the boys’ sides at McLean, VYS, and BRYC not being competitive (which in turn was driven by the BRYC boys’ program splitting off into NVU 2.5 years ago).
Let’s look at last year’s ECRl girls’ standings
2006 - GFR 5th, Vienna 7th, BRYC 8th, McLean 10th.
2007 - GFR 6, MYS 7, VYS 8, BRYC 9
2008 - GFR 5, BRYC 7, VYS 8, MYS 9
2009 - GFR 1, VYS 7, MYS 8, BRYC 9
2010 - VYS 2, GFR 5, MYS 6, BRYC 8
2011 - GFR 4, VYS 6, MYS 8, BRYC 10.
Only 1/6 MYS teams were better than VYS, and the same for BRYC. GFR obviously looks like the clear winner here, but then remember that the best players for the other 3 clubs were playing on Brave and Union.
With the combination of those clubs into FVU, VYS, MYS, and BRYC should benefit (by keeping more of their players).
Who is talking about 2006-2011 (high school kids)?
The comment was that Vienna is a complete disaster these days at the Elementary school ages. That is a fact most girls with talent and skill at Vienna have left for other teams. McLean is mainly where talented Vienna players go, but GFR is also a top team at those ages along with others. The future of FVU girls will definitely be McLean heavy.
It’s still the same Vienna uLittle coaches that coached the current batch of middle and high schoolers when they were in elementary. They turn some parents off because they do things like force them to play out of the back instead of punting it long. But the 2009 and 2010 girls who are now in pool for the U15 National Team did fine under them. The problem is the parents, not the coaches.
You can’t even see U11 and below results in NCSL, for good reason. I started the list at U13 because that’s when the scores start counting. Regi and Vincent know what matters is developing for 11v11.