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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s a concrete example from the Tufts 2023-24 CDS (which reports on the previous year’s incoming class, so the numbers may be even more skewed now.)

The 25th percentile for SAT is 1460 and the 75th percentile is 1540.

But only 37% of entering students submitted SAT scores.

What do you do if you score a 1450? You are certainly scoring higher than 25% of your classmates, if everyone were required to take the SAT. The admission officers should realize this. It’s certainly a high enough score to take advantage of what Tufts has to offer. Do you submit?

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I would submit. I think they will increasingly care about percentage submitting, especially with many Ivys returning to test required. [/quote]

Most of the Ivies and T10s had over 85% admitted submitting high test scores when they were TO.  So even then without a hook or being in a special group for whatever reason—the typical applicant needed to submit scores to have any chance.[/quote]

^ in other words the percentage not submitting was being used to capture the athletes, legacy, DEI needs. Etc[/quote]
Has there been any knock to these colleges’ graduation rates. With the way people talk about colleges post-Covid, you’d think there’d be more clear signs of any actual issues from test optional.[/quote]

Kids are shuttled into easier majors and professors are discouraged from giving low grades to students. My professor friends get a lot of pressure from Deans and other committees to give kids multiple attempts at tests, regrades of papers, etc. The professors have also greatly reduced what they ask of students wrt papers and exams. So, it’s easier to pass these days even for a student with very low ability or effort or competence. It’s a real “the customer is always right” attitude. [/quote]

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