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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Given the [b]very high quality of students overall[/b], how does this reflect in the curriculum?  Some cynics say it's mostly about the connections because the undergraduate curriculum is the same at most institutions of reasonable quality.  But I would suspect since there's no remedial education going, there's a difference in kind between a bachelor's from HYP/Oxbridge and your more typical bachelor's degree.
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Students are very high quality at both, but let’s not pretend they are equal: [b]Oxbridge is an order of magnitude easier to get in[/b]. This is true in every subject, but since admission is by course, some subjects — say, languages, humanities, social sciences other than Econ — are easier admits than, say, Emory.[/quote]

You think an Oxford grad who read history is less knowledgeable than a typical Emory grad?[/quote]

False.  Oxford doesn't like Americans.  Only 1.7% of the students are from here.  Yet the university is over 50% international students (most from China).  From Google "The percentage of students from North America is far smaller at Oxford – only 200 out of 12,000 undergrads (1.7%).Feb 20, 2018"

And dons are hard on Americans.  I know of two M.Phil students who didn't score high enough to graduate.  No warning.  Nothing said from the tutors.  Just "sorry - you failed - thanks for your two years of American bucks but your visa is now obsolete, go home".  It can be a very tough place for Americans.[/quote]

[b]This is absurd.  
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Some Americans expect their hands held and that does not happen.  They don’t “dislike” Americans, they treat them like everyone else.

If you don’t have a self-motivated student, it will be a bad fit.  But a motivated student will do great.

Sure, some kids used to hand-holding will not be successful, but their helicopter parents should have realized that before they sent them. If you want to be that kind of parent, be responsible enough to realize that isn’t how Oxbridge works.[/quote]

It's not absurd.  Americans don't do well on the entrance exams.  Their rate of acceptance is lower.  Google it.  What is the acceptance rate for Oxford for US citizens?
It is low for everyone, but it seems to be slightly lower for Americans. On average Oxford has about a 16% admission rate, but for Americans it is just under 9%. Roughly half the average.Sep 9, 2013:[/quote]

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