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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Remember Cornell is actually the land grant university for the State of New York. The state legislature passed an act establishing four contract colleges and schools at Cornell. Residents of New York State get a reduction of about $25k in tuition per year, from $68k to $43k. It’s a backdoor way to get the Cornell degree across an array of majors that aren’t as narrow as you would think.

Otherwise, at the undergraduate level Binghamton is probably the best of the four SUNY “University Centers” (aka flagships), the others being Albany, Buffalo and Stony Brook. The post above about the Bronx Science and Stuyvesant students flocking to Binghamton is telling. Binghamton seems to have built up enough of a cohort of high-achieving Ivy-competitive kids that it’s in the administration’s interest to embrace facilitating a vibrant undergraduate population.

After Binghamton, I’d say Stony Brook is likely best for you but with this provisio: you need to pursue your interests proactively. Stony Brook has always calculated that they’re best-off leaning strongly into what attracts government funding: strong graduate programs in the hard, medical and social sciences. Being on Long Island they have found themselves to be traditionally a “suitcase” school, where Thursday is the big party night before students head home to NYC Metro for the weekend.

The research-oriented professors there don’t necessarily mind this. Their preference is for engaged students, especially ones who could help them with research tasks. They DON’T want kids who harass them to regrade their work after skipping classes and not turning things in. In the middle are kids who just do the work and accept whatever grades they get as fair.

So if you know what you want to study, and talk to your professor and grad student TA about opportunities to help and observe, you can get brought on-board to participate. If that happens, be a sponge. Observe, listen and learn. With so many being prominent scholars, a recommendation for grad or med school can be especially helpful relative to an excellent but less prominent professor at a liberal arts college. If you don’t go into grad school in your major, being on the ground observing you develop an appreciation for rigor in academic work that serves you very well as you embark on a career.
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the land grant thing about Cornell is widely known and mostly known by people who think it's more of a back door than it is. People are not paying 60k plus COA for a Labor Relations degree just so they can say they have a Cornell diploma. Sorry, that's not happening.[/quote]

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