Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:58
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD and Bing would both be more known if they have big spots!
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
And this is how we know dcum has jumped the shark with the invasion of all the NYC people.
UMD, a regional university? Where have you been?
Outside the region, presumably.
Hard to read the label from inside the bottle. I think Bing and UMD are quite comparable tbh. Well known within the region. Hakeem Jeffries is a Bing alumn.
Not even close. UMD is 40s US news, Binghamton in the 70s. UMD is highly ranked in engineering and comp sci and attracts students from all over the US.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:57
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:UMD and Bing would both be more known if they have big spots!
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
This goes back to Len Bias.
If only .....
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:52
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD and Bing would both be more known if they have big spots!
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
And this is how we know dcum has jumped the shark with the invasion of all the NYC people.
UMD, a regional university? Where have you been?
Outside the region, presumably.
Hard to read the label from inside the bottle. I think Bing and UMD are quite comparable tbh. Well known within the region. Hakeem Jeffries is a Bing alumn.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:52
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
I am from the snobby world of DC Big three schools and I always had this vague idea that SUNY Binghamton was considered the best of the NY state schools.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:47
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:UMD and Bing would both be more known if they have big spots!
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
And this is how we know dcum has jumped the shark with the invasion of all the NYC people.
UMD, a regional university? Where have you been?
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:42
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
UMD and Bing would both be more known if they have big spots!
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
I agree in many ways they're comparable. Strong, regional universities.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:40
Subject: Re:SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Remember Cornell is actually the land grant university for the State of New York. The state legislature passed an act establishing four contract colleges and schools at Cornell. Residents of New York State get a reduction of about $25k in tuition per year, from $68k to $43k. It’s a backdoor way to get the Cornell degree across an array of majors that aren’t as narrow as you would think.
Otherwise, at the undergraduate level Binghamton is probably the best of the four SUNY “University Centers” (aka flagships), the others being Albany, Buffalo and Stony Brook. The post above about the Bronx Science and Stuyvesant students flocking to Binghamton is telling. Binghamton seems to have built up enough of a cohort of high-achieving Ivy-competitive kids that it’s in the administration’s interest to embrace facilitating a vibrant undergraduate population.
After Binghamton, I’d say Stony Brook is likely best for you but with this provisio: you need to pursue your interests proactively. Stony Brook has always calculated that they’re best-off leaning strongly into what attracts government funding: strong graduate programs in the hard, medical and social sciences. Being on Long Island they have found themselves to be traditionally a “suitcase” school, where Thursday is the big party night before students head home to NYC Metro for the weekend.
The research-oriented professors there don’t necessarily mind this. Their preference is for engaged students, especially ones who could help them with research tasks. They DON’T want kids who harass them to regrade their work after skipping classes and not turning things in. In the middle are kids who just do the work and accept whatever grades they get as fair.
So if you know what you want to study, and talk to your professor and grad student TA about opportunities to help and observe, you can get brought on-board to participate. If that happens, be a sponge. Observe, listen and learn. With so many being prominent scholars, a recommendation for grad or med school can be especially helpful relative to an excellent but less prominent professor at a liberal arts college. If you don’t go into grad school in your major, being on the ground observing you develop an appreciation for rigor in academic work that serves you very well as you embark on a career.
the land grant thing about Cornell is widely known and mostly known by people who think it's more of a back door than it is. People are not paying 60k plus COA for a Labor Relations degree just so they can say they have a Cornell diploma. Sorry, that's not happening.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:36
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD is to this area as SUNY is to NY.
Regional, but .. very well respected in region. And if you had to pick a region, NY is not a bad region.
uh no. UMD is nationally recognized. Towson is regional and would be seen that way.
just as NYers think that SUNY is nationally recognized, so do DMVers think UMD is nationally recognized. They're nationally recognized .. by some. But they're no UVA, no MI, no UCLA or Cal, no UT Austin, no UGA, not even a WI or Iowa or Indiana or Ohio. Don't ask me why. Not a knock on quality. It's about sports probably.
? If UGA is nationally recognized so is UMD. UMD is higher ranked than UGA.
UMD is B1G.
You clearly just hate UMD.
I don't! I'm just a NYer stuck on DCUM (RIP YBM) and I've learned in the last few months that UMD is a good school. As a person who has lived and worked for giant tech companies in NY for 30 years, I didn't know that before. Sorry. Still think it's about sports!
? then you're head has been in the sand. Google cofounder went to UMD.
If you think it's about sports, then you should know that UMD is B1G. It may not be the best one, maybe even the last one, but people into college sports know UMD.
-former Googler who has been in tech for 25 years.
Ironically, I was at google for 11 years. I'm not saying I had never heard of it, I just didn't know it was a good school. I worked at Apple for 6 years. I know Tim Cook went to Auburn. I know Auburn, but again .. it's not MI. I do think anyone can succeed from any college. I really believe that.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 12:07
Subject: Re:SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Remember Cornell is actually the land grant university for the State of New York. The state legislature passed an act establishing four contract colleges and schools at Cornell. Residents of New York State get a reduction of about $25k in tuition per year, from $68k to $43k. It’s a backdoor way to get the Cornell degree across an array of majors that aren’t as narrow as you would think.
Otherwise, at the undergraduate level Binghamton is probably the best of the four SUNY “University Centers” (aka flagships), the others being Albany, Buffalo and Stony Brook. The post above about the Bronx Science and Stuyvesant students flocking to Binghamton is telling. Binghamton seems to have built up enough of a cohort of high-achieving Ivy-competitive kids that it’s in the administration’s interest to embrace facilitating a vibrant undergraduate population.
After Binghamton, I’d say Stony Brook is likely best for you but with this provisio: you need to pursue your interests proactively. Stony Brook has always calculated that they’re best-off leaning strongly into what attracts government funding: strong graduate programs in the hard, medical and social sciences. Being on Long Island they have found themselves to be traditionally a “suitcase” school, where Thursday is the big party night before students head home to NYC Metro for the weekend.
The research-oriented professors there don’t necessarily mind this. Their preference is for engaged students, especially ones who could help them with research tasks. They DON’T want kids who harass them to regrade their work after skipping classes and not turning things in. In the middle are kids who just do the work and accept whatever grades they get as fair.
So if you know what you want to study, and talk to your professor and grad student TA about opportunities to help and observe, you can get brought on-board to participate. If that happens, be a sponge. Observe, listen and learn. With so many being prominent scholars, a recommendation for grad or med school can be especially helpful relative to an excellent but less prominent professor at a liberal arts college. If you don’t go into grad school in your major, being on the ground observing you develop an appreciation for rigor in academic work that serves you very well as you embark on a career.
Otherwise, at the undergraduate level Binghamton is probably the best of the four SUNY “University Centers” (aka flagships), the others being Albany, Buffalo and Stony Brook. The post above about the Bronx Science and Stuyvesant students flocking to Binghamton is telling. Binghamton seems to have built up enough of a cohort of high-achieving Ivy-competitive kids that it’s in the administration’s interest to embrace facilitating a vibrant undergraduate population.
After Binghamton, I’d say Stony Brook is likely best for you but with this provisio: you need to pursue your interests proactively. Stony Brook has always calculated that they’re best-off leaning strongly into what attracts government funding: strong graduate programs in the hard, medical and social sciences. Being on Long Island they have found themselves to be traditionally a “suitcase” school, where Thursday is the big party night before students head home to NYC Metro for the weekend.
The research-oriented professors there don’t necessarily mind this. Their preference is for engaged students, especially ones who could help them with research tasks. They DON’T want kids who harass them to regrade their work after skipping classes and not turning things in. In the middle are kids who just do the work and accept whatever grades they get as fair.
So if you know what you want to study, and talk to your professor and grad student TA about opportunities to help and observe, you can get brought on-board to participate. If that happens, be a sponge. Observe, listen and learn. With so many being prominent scholars, a recommendation for grad or med school can be especially helpful relative to an excellent but less prominent professor at a liberal arts college. If you don’t go into grad school in your major, being on the ground observing you develop an appreciation for rigor in academic work that serves you very well as you embark on a career.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:57
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD is to this area as SUNY is to NY.
Regional, but .. very well respected in region. And if you had to pick a region, NY is not a bad region.
uh no. UMD is nationally recognized. Towson is regional and would be seen that way.
just as NYers think that SUNY is nationally recognized, so do DMVers think UMD is nationally recognized. They're nationally recognized .. by some. But they're no UVA, no MI, no UCLA or Cal, no UT Austin, no UGA, not even a WI or Iowa or Indiana or Ohio. Don't ask me why. Not a knock on quality. It's about sports probably.
? If UGA is nationally recognized so is UMD. UMD is higher ranked than UGA.
UMD is B1G.
You clearly just hate UMD.
Dp, but that’s an absurd conclusion.
why?
Someone can say that UMD is not nationally known without hating the school. I would agree with that statement. It’s not nationally known. Neither is Binghamton. Both are great schools though.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:57
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
I'm a Bing graduate living in the DMV now and hate that I have to say "it's a nerdy school for kids that didn't get into Cornell". but that is exactly what it is. I just wish more people knew it!
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:54
Subject: Re:SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Agree that Buffalo is also great. Overall, it's a very strong system. There's a good state option for every kind of kid.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:52
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD is to this area as SUNY is to NY.
Regional, but .. very well respected in region. And if you had to pick a region, NY is not a bad region.
uh no. UMD is nationally recognized. Towson is regional and would be seen that way.
just as NYers think that SUNY is nationally recognized, so do DMVers think UMD is nationally recognized. They're nationally recognized .. by some. But they're no UVA, no MI, no UCLA or Cal, no UT Austin, no UGA, not even a WI or Iowa or Indiana or Ohio. Don't ask me why. Not a knock on quality. It's about sports probably.
? If UGA is nationally recognized so is UMD. UMD is higher ranked than UGA.
UMD is B1G.
You clearly just hate UMD.
I don't! I'm just a NYer stuck on DCUM (RIP YBM) and I've learned in the last few months that UMD is a good school. As a person who has lived and worked for giant tech companies in NY for 30 years, I didn't know that before. Sorry. Still think it's about sports!
I'm military so I've lived all over. I think you're right. People in an area know a set of schools and don't realize that their perception doesn't match someone 1000 miles away. Any state schools that have national recognition are due to size, popular media, or sports. The NY school system has none of those.
If your kid is trying to get a job in Texas after graduation none of the SUNY schools will have any more name recognition than University of Maryland, University of Vermont, or University of Georgia unless the person in human resources grew up in NY. I moved to Texas after getting a degree from a highly respected regional school nobody in Texas is aware of. I still got a job.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:40
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD is to this area as SUNY is to NY.
Regional, but .. very well respected in region. And if you had to pick a region, NY is not a bad region.
uh no. UMD is nationally recognized. Towson is regional and would be seen that way.
just as NYers think that SUNY is nationally recognized, so do DMVers think UMD is nationally recognized. They're nationally recognized .. by some. But they're no UVA, no MI, no UCLA or Cal, no UT Austin, no UGA, not even a WI or Iowa or Indiana or Ohio. Don't ask me why. Not a knock on quality. It's about sports probably.
? If UGA is nationally recognized so is UMD. UMD is higher ranked than UGA.
UMD is B1G.
You clearly just hate UMD.
I don't! I'm just a NYer stuck on DCUM (RIP YBM) and I've learned in the last few months that UMD is a good school. As a person who has lived and worked for giant tech companies in NY for 30 years, I didn't know that before. Sorry. Still think it's about sports!
? then you're head has been in the sand. Google cofounder went to UMD.
If you think it's about sports, then you should know that UMD is B1G. It may not be the best one, maybe even the last one, but people into college sports know UMD.
-former Googler who has been in tech for 25 years.
Anonymous
04/09/2024 11:38
Subject: SUNY (Bing or Stonybrook)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMD is to this area as SUNY is to NY.
Regional, but .. very well respected in region. And if you had to pick a region, NY is not a bad region.
uh no. UMD is nationally recognized. Towson is regional and would be seen that way.
just as NYers think that SUNY is nationally recognized, so do DMVers think UMD is nationally recognized. They're nationally recognized .. by some. But they're no UVA, no MI, no UCLA or Cal, no UT Austin, no UGA, not even a WI or Iowa or Indiana or Ohio. Don't ask me why. Not a knock on quality. It's about sports probably.
? If UGA is nationally recognized so is UMD. UMD is higher ranked than UGA.
UMD is B1G.
You clearly just hate UMD.
Dp, but that’s an absurd conclusion.
why?