Reply to Do they count iready scores now?

Forum Index » Advanced Academic Programs (AAP)

Reply to "Do they count iready scores now?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agreed if the student is getting 135+ on the CoGAT, they should be getting 99% on the iready.  Anything below a 95% is suspicious, and anything below 90% signals prepping. If the HOPE scores are more in line with 90%tile than 99%tile, then I can see why the selection committee would reject.[/quote]

Completely disagree here.  COGAT and Iready are measuring different things.  [quote]COGAT is measuring general intelligence like an IQ test[/quote] and so the questions have nothing to do with what kids are learning in school.  Iready, in contrast, is a way to check on comprehension and understanding of grade-level material.

Also, with any standardized test for young kids, it matters a lot how the kid happens to feel on the day the test is given.  Thus, if someone has one bad score, I don't think you can assume one thing or another. [/quote]
If the COGAT is measuring general intelligence like an IQ test, how come it is fairly easy to prep for?[/quote]

One can "prep" for any test.  Who says you can't prep for an IQ test?  If an IQ test were the basis for entry into AAP, people would prep for it.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, even if anyone can "prep" for any test, it doesn't mean that anyone can get perfect scores on the COGAT or an IQ test.  "Prep" just lets one perform to the best of one's ability (which could still be bad because one is inherently bad at a topic or a subject).  I don't understand all the hate towards "prepping."  Why shouldn't we reward people who work hard at something?

I am sympathetic towards people who dislike standardized testing because they don't think it's a precise measure of things and it's something that can be easily manipulated.  However, if that is the standard, why hate on people who are trying to make the best of a flawed system by working hard?[/quote]

The reason that prepping invalidates the Cogat (and a few other tests including the old quant test for TJ admissions) is that the test is designed to evaluate someone's response to a new question that they haven't seen before and how they would think about it or solve it.  If they have prepped, they have already thought about or solved that type of question, may have already been told how to answer it.  So the test becomes invalid.  Prepping isn't studying for a test, it's breaking it.

Fwiw, the LAST is considered the best IQ proxy test because everyone studies for it and everyone comes in with the same amount of prepping.  Not the case for any other IQ proxy test, where some people take it cold and others have prepped for it.  I'll tell you my LSAT score if you tell me yours.[/quote]

Our school does 3 days of CogAT familiarization before the test. Same with NNAT. So all the kids come in knowing what the questions look like.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics