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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.[/quote]
Most ridiculous statement of the day.  Congrats![/quote]

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Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly.  To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.  [/quote]

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some  it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League. [/quote]

Please explain what metrics are boosted by Cornell being in Ivy League.  You imply this is giving an unfair boost.

Do you mean:

Top of mind awareness among evaluators?
[b]SATs of applicants?
Yield?[/b]

Those are the three I can think of.  Only the top one could maybe be partially unearned.  But reputation is always subjective.[/quote]

This shows how much ignorance there is out there on the methodology for rankings. Neither SAT scores nor yield factor into the ranking metrics. Currently, it's DEI metrics that matter (number of pell grant and federal aid students, social mobility, etc). Peer reputation is in the methodology but agree that it is always subjective and difficult to measure accurately. [/quote]

PP. I am not ignorant.  I just did not make the default assumption of USNWR.

My grad degree is in a subject where there is now no longer a single dominant published ranking.  Plus I've been looking up various ranking schemes for different majors as questions have come up on this site.

Other PP, are you unaware that there are a[b]lternative college rankings systems beyond USNWR?[/b]

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The alternative rankings are equally flawed. Most if not all of them are comparing apples to oranges. As somebody who works in the data field, I can attest that they are not internationally comparable. Instead of rankings, focus on whether the school delivers what you are looking for in an undergraduate or graduate education. 
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