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Anonymous wrote:People should stop using USNWR to decide which schools are best and are best for their children. This is a farce. Cornell is great school but is not for everyone. It is of no relevance what US News says.

What kind of person thrives there? a NE kid I'd assume?

Everything was on a curve back in the day, and it was not a particularly happy place. But if it the best academic school you get into, then go for it in order to get an excellent education.

Anonymous wrote:People should stop using USNWR to decide which schools are best and are best for their children. This is a farce. Cornell is great school but is not for everyone. It is of no relevance what US News says.

What kind of person thrives there? a NE kid I'd assume?

People should stop using USNWR to decide which schools are best and are best for their children. This is a farce. Cornell is great school but is not for everyone. It is of no relevance what US News says.

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Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

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Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Please explain what metrics are boosted by Cornell being in Ivy League. You imply this is giving an unfair boost.

Do you mean:

Top of mind awareness among evaluators?
SATs of applicants?
Yield?

Those are the three I can think of. Only the top one could maybe be partially unearned. But reputation is always subjective.

This shows how much ignorance there is out there on the methodology for rankings. Neither SAT scores nor yield factor into the ranking metrics. Currently, it's DEI metrics that matter (number of pell grant and federal aid students, social mobility, etc). Peer reputation is in the methodology but agree that it is always subjective and difficult to measure accurately.

PP. I am not ignorant. I just did not make the default assumption of USNWR.

My grad degree is in a subject where there is now no longer a single dominant published ranking. Plus I've been looking up various ranking schemes for different majors as questions have come up on this site.

Other PP, are you unaware that there are alternative college rankings systems beyond USNWR?

The alternative rankings are equally flawed. Most if not all of them are comparing apples to oranges. As somebody who works in the data field, I can attest that they are not internationally comparable. Instead of rankings, focus on whether the school delivers what you are looking for in an undergraduate or graduate education.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

+1
Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Please explain what metrics are boosted by Cornell being in Ivy League. You imply this is giving an unfair boost.

Do you mean:

Top of mind awareness among evaluators?
SATs of applicants?
Yield?

Those are the three I can think of. Only the top one could maybe be partially unearned. But reputation is always subjective.

This shows how much ignorance there is out there on the methodology for rankings. Neither SAT scores nor yield factor into the ranking metrics. Currently, it's DEI metrics that matter (number of pell grant and federal aid students, social mobility, etc). Peer reputation is in the methodology but agree that it is always subjective and difficult to measure accurately.

PP. I am not ignorant. I just did not make the default assumption of USNWR.

My grad degree is in a subject where there is now no longer a single dominant published ranking. Plus I've been looking up various ranking schemes for different majors as questions have come up on this site.

Other PP, are you unaware that there are alternative college rankings systems beyond USNWR?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

+1
Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Does USNWR really take athletic conference into consideration in the rankings?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

+1
Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Please explain what metrics are boosted by Cornell being in Ivy League. You imply this is giving an unfair boost.

Do you mean:

Top of mind awareness among evaluators?
SATs of applicants?
Yield?

Those are the three I can think of. Only the top one could maybe be partially unearned. But reputation is always subjective.

This shows how much ignorance there is out there on the methodology for rankings. Neither SAT scores nor yield factor into the ranking metrics. Currently, it's DEI metrics that matter (number of pell grant and federal aid students, social mobility, etc). Peer reputation is in the methodology but agree that it is always subjective and difficult to measure accurately.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

+1
Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Please explain what metrics are boosted by Cornell being in Ivy League. You imply this is giving an unfair boost.

Do you mean:

Top of mind awareness among evaluators?
SATs of applicants?
Yield?

Those are the three I can think of. Only the top one could maybe be partially unearned. But reputation is always subjective.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

Most ridiculous statement of the day. Congrats!

+1
Cornell is ranked in the top 20 or so in every single ranking out there in the US and globablly. To say it is just like state flagships (its the exception of Berkeley and Michigan) just shows your ignorance.

But it’s IN the top 20 only because some metrics get a boost from being in the Ivy League.

Cause & effect…to some it’s in the Ivy League because it’s great; to others it’s great because it’s in the Ivy League.

Anonymous wrote:People who go to Cornell go because it’s in the Ivy League. It has no value beyond that over state flagships.

"SOME students go to Cornell only because it's in the Ivy League. Because somebody in their life (hint: parents) made getting into the Ivy League the most important thing in their life. They are able to get in because of their excellent credentials and because Cornell has a larger freshman class size than many other Ivies. When they arrive, they discover that Cornell is really rigorous (always was, even during the long-gone era of the "Gentleman's C"). And they discover they and some others among their classmates have no intrinsic reasons for being there except it's the Ivy they got into. And it rains and snows there and you have to walk a lot. Then they are sad."

There, I fixed it for you.

P.S. a lot of Cornell legacies who love the school and want to attend would really appreciate it if the lukewarm applicants and admits would look elsewhere. "Ivy or bust" really hurts Cornell. Cornell accepts a lot of transfers, partly to replace those who never should have started in the first place.

Anonymous wrote:My kid was waitlisted at Cornell. If your kid isn’t going, mine will happily take a spot with my full support.

Go BEARS!🐻

It’s actually Go Big Red. Fingers crossed for your kid!

Anonymous wrote:My kid was waitlisted at Cornell. If your kid isn’t going, mine will happily take a spot with my full support.

Go BEARS!🐻

Hear Hear!