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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Could also be TO and weaker admissions standards for “prestige” universities. It’s not just the pandemic. [/quote]

TO has nothing to do with weather a student is prepared for college.

I would say I have not seen a major change.  If anything,  students seem better prepared overall.  There are still a few that I was would have been required to talk a basic writing class. The one area I do see a difference is the extent to which students want to turn in work late. There doesn't seem to be the same priority for deadlines. [/quote]

“Nothing to do with weather (sic) a student is prepared…” I started to question whether or not a college professor wrote this, [b]but then I realized that only an academic would write something this stupid.[/b] Based upon this and the grammatical errors in your post, it is clear that we should not place any weight upon your judgment regarding the preparedness of students for college (fake academic or not). [/quote]

DP: what's your point? The OP asked what professors are witnessing on campus. You seem to look down on academics. Who should give their informed opinion on student preparedness for college?[/quote]

Because the statement regarding test scores was a blanket statement that reflects what the poster *wants* to be true, with zero substantive evidence. It would be one thing to argue that a university can select a qualified group of students without reference to test scores, but the statement that test scores have no relevance at all to student preparedness is false.  Studies indicate that test scores are the single best predictor of academic success in college.

Further, it is unlikely that this person has access to the test scores of their students, so I would consider their opinion on this topic to be of limited value. [/quote]

OP - I have read studies that HS GPA is the single best predictor for college success as it indicates consistent work ethic and subject mastery. However, I can see how grade inflation may render that an unhelpful gauge for future college success. [/quote]

OP - I just double checked that there is not new data showing that test scores trumo GPAs but I can’t find such research. Quite the opposite, as I had also read years ago. I suspect that it is related to high GPAs demonstrating consistent hard work and self discipline.

[b]It’s GPAs Not Standardized Tests That Predict College Success[/b]

Grade point averages are a much better predictor of success at college than standardized tests, according to new research. High school GPAs were found to be five times stronger than ACT scores at predicting graduation rates, and that the effect of GPAs was consistent across schools, unlike ACT scores.Jan

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2020/01/29/its-gpas-not-standardized-tests-that-predict-college-success/?sh=7e52b56132bd

[b]Test scores don’t stack up to GPAs in predicting college success[/b]

UChicago Consortium study finds high-school GPAs outweigh ACTs for college readiness

Students’ high-school grade point averages are five times stronger than their ACT scores at predicting college graduation, according to a new study from the University of Chicago Consortium on School Research.

UChicago Consortium researchers found that the predictive power of GPAs is consistent across high schools—something that did not hold true for test scores. At many high schools, they discovered no connection between students’ ACT scores and eventual college graduation. The authors were also surprised to find that, at some high schools, students with the highest ACT scores were less likely to succeed in college.

https://news.uchicago.edu/story/test-scores-dont-stack-gpas-predicting-college-success
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