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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NVSL should require teams to provide the meet sheet with seed times. Instead they are so closely guarded not even all the offices can get a sheet with times. Ridiculous and definitely gives those with something to hide and who are not seeding meets based on the ladder the ability to do so. [/quote]

Why?  It is not a club meet, these are summer meets with human timers.  Let me give you some scenarios that we have seen in our 20 years of NVSL.

Scenario #1:

Swimmer is in B meet and supposed to swim Fly.  They swim free and for some reason no one decided to DQ them.  It was witnessed, but now they have an incredibly fast time entered in the system.  BTW, they are not legal in fly.  So now the coaches and reps are stuck with this BS time.

Scenario #2:

Swimmer is swimming in a B meet and it is late and they are swimming breast.  They have never been able to do it legally for the whole distance.  It is dark because you are at a crappy pool with crappy lights and no one can see a damn thing.  The S&T for the home team just want to go home and don't DQ.  Another time the coaches are stuck with KNOW is not a good time.

Scenario #3:

A meet and you have an opposing team that are a little wonky on the timers.  Visually you can see that one lane is touching the wall by sometimes as much as two strokes ahead yet still losing on the watch.  Meanwhile a second lane kid who has never beat the first lane kid has a better time.  But in reality the first lane kid did.  What do you now?

Scenario #4:

You have a swimmer whose best time was at Time Trials (good time) and they have never repeated that time again and generally are considerably slower at every meet since.  Meanwhile you have swimmers that are speeding up and beating this swimmer at A meets but because of this anomalous time this swimmer keeps getting seeded.  The coaches are giving up points by continually swimming this swimmer when they have other faster kids (but for this first time).

In a club meet it doesn't matter, but when you are trying to score points it can make a huge difference to factor in all the weird crap that happens when parents are timing and judging.  I have literally heard parents that were S&T say that they have no clue what they are doing.  And then watch them make ZERO calls during a meet when some pretty obvious DQs are happening.  Summer officials are not Club officials that get HOURS of training and shadowing, etc.  These are parents that watched a video.  [/quote]
I’m a long time swim parent and have never seen scenarios 1-3. A kid swimming freestyle instead of fly and not getting DQ, come on. A kid that’s terrible at breaststroke doing it illegally faster than a good legal breaststroker? Multiple timers in a lane being off by 2 strokes and magically giving a slow kid an A meet time? This isn’t real.[/quote]

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