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[quote=Anonymous]OP both my boys are rough, stubborn donkeys and yes, they have both been smacked back at times. I don't do it all the time but occasionally they get really out of line and nothing else will work and I am not in a position to give them a time out (one thing they don't tell you, is how you discipline one with the other mocking him like a court jester?).

Re. the 'how do you get a kid to sit in time out' issue, this is the do or die time, OP. My stubborn donkeys needed to be sat in a bathroom (TP removed), on the closed toilet seat. It is high enough so they can't easily 'sneak' off of it. We have a timer and if they get up, the timer starts over. I did this for 20 minutes with my 2yo the other day when he threw a toy and refused to sit still. Eventually, he did; and I know that in 6-8 months, he'll handle a time out without a battle like his 4yo brother; but until then, he's going to try and try and see if he gets a different result.

It's hard. And some kids just push.your.buttons. But I wouldn't feel so bad; if anything, he will think twice before he hits again. I would also talk to him about how it's never ok to hit people when he is in a teachable mood.
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