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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Teachers in Italy (and in other countries) give higher grades to girls than boys in math, even when the boys score better on anonymous standardized testing.  This impacts higher level education choices and vocation in the future.

https://scitechdaily.com/wide-and-lasting-consequences-teachers-give-girls-higher-grades-than-boys/[/quote]

What part of a grade is based on behavior and manners, absenteeism, showing your work, following directions, or not turning in work on time? [/quote]

Unclear.

But on the job all those things matter, not just what you manage to turn in at the last minute whilst going about pissing off everyone for weeks. [/quote]

Maybe.  But flubbing the final product but being a pleasant, neat employee won't make your supervisor happy either.  [/quote]

Stop contorting things. The study is on relative test scores versus relative class grades, and not who’s failing or not.

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The study noted that boys received higher scores on the standardized math tests but failing grades in their math classes.  Clearly there's a problem somewhere.   The researchers had some ideas but no answers.  So we are free to speculate.

Getting good scores on tests is a useful skill.  As are good classwork, organization, behavior etc.  We don't need to denigrate one.[/quote]

I don't think people are denigrating scoring well on tests. Test aptitude is a mark of knowledge and skill.

However, in the working world, a very knowledgeable person who is disruptive in meetings, misses deadlines, is disorganized and refuses to prepare will be dead weight no matter how smart they actually are. I've worked with people like this and it's a nightmare. Their knowledge and skill is useless because they lack any of the skills that would enable them to contribute.

Meanwhile, someone who doesn't have as much natural aptitude can actually compensate a lot by being diligent, organized, and hard working. They are often able to overcome the knowledge gap simply by working on the material more, and because they are so easy to work with, their knowledge and skill are very easy to put to good use.

Both are valuable but all things being equal, I would hire the graduate who demonstrated strong classroom skills, diligence, and organziation but scored lower on tests, than the one with the high test scores but none of the other skills. If I have to pick.[/quote]

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