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[quote=Anonymous] (1) Worst recession in U.S. history (stimuli/green packages = crap, trillions more debt) [b]As been pointed out previously, the recession ended in 2009. The problem with the stimulus package in terms of jumpstarting job creation wasn't that it had "green" packages, it was that 45% of it was tax cuts, so it made too little of an injection into the economy. That said, most economists agree that the stimulus arrested the economic freefall and began the process of turning the U.S.S. America in the right direction. The economy is demonstrably stronger now than it was 3 years ago. The debt trajectory is completely irrelevant to discussing the short-term financial crisis that began on Bush's watch due largely to Bush's policies.[/b] (2) Two wars that have not ended (promise to end = crap) [b]Fair to say Iraq has been wound down in terms of U.S. involvement. I recall Obama promising to escalate Afghanistan, not end it.[/b] (3) Wall Street unscathed after the housing/stock market meltdown [b]Unscathed is an imprecise word. Moreover, I don't recall Obama promising to "scathe" or "punish" Wall Street. In any event, TARP has been repaid, bonuses are down, prop desk trading is done, and the credit crunch has eased. The Ted Spread is back to normal. I realize you don't know what the Ted Spread is, but that's OK if you want to Google it.[/b] (4) Worst natural disaster in U.S. history (Obama told foreign aid to clean up to go home, continued his vacay, and months later took credit for inventing the cap - LMAO!) [/b]how sad are you that you consider the BP oil spill to be a natural disaster?[b] (5) Guitmo is still open for business (promise to close = crap) [b]I'll grant you that.[/b] (6) Obama's proposed tax hike on ALL taxable income over $0 [b]This is factually incorrect. Obama has said repeatedly and consistently he'd keep the lower rates in place on the first $250,000 of a married couple's income. Thus, your brackets below are fictitious.[/b] Pre-Bush Tax Cuts / Obama's Proposal: $0 to $25,750 = 15% $25,750 to $62,450 = 28% + $3,862 $62,450 to $130,250 = 31% + $14,138 $130,250 to $283,150 = 36% + $35,156 $3,862.50 + 25,750 $283,150+ = 39.6% +$90,200 Bush Tax Cuts (Current Rates) $0 to $8,500 = 10% $8,500 to $34,500 = 15% + $850 $34,500 to $83,600 = 25% + $4,750 $83,600 to $174,400 = 28% + $17,025 $174,400 to $379,150 = 33% + $42,449 $379,150+ = 35% + $110,016 (7) Obamacare penalizes people for not being able to afford health insurance on their tax return (and they still don't get any insurance!!!) [b]I have no problem with this.[/b] Examples: 2014; family of 2; taxable income=$26,000; penalty=$260 ($260=$26,000x1% > $190=$95x2.) 2014; family of 3; taxable income=$26,000; penalty=$285 ($260=$26,000x1% < $285=$95x3.) 2016; family of 3; taxable income=$26,000; penalty=$2,085 ($650=$26,000x2.5% < $2,085=$695x3.) 2016; family of 3; taxable income=$85,000; penalty=$2,125 ($2,125=$85,000x2.5% > $2,085=$695x3.) 2016; family of 8; taxable income=$85,000; penalty=$2,125 ($2,1t25=$85,000x2.5% > $2,085=$695x3.) ----------------------------- I realize Facts died last week (see http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-04-19/news/ct-talk-huppke-obit-facts-20120419_1_facts-philosopher-opinion for the obituary), but you're really living in a fantasyland. [/quote]
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