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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW[/quote]

Wow, is UChicago paying US News or something? Because it looks like they do much worse on every ranking that is not US News. Really puts them in a different light once you look outside the US News tunnel. Same with Johns Hopkins, it dropped dramatically once you look outside US News.[/quote]

Both U. Chicago and Hopkins are focused on students going onto further studies, which obviously lowers their earning potential 5-10 years out from college.

U. Chicago focuses on graduate/law school rather than sending students to Wall Street/top-tier consulting etc.

Hopkins focuses on pre-med. Otherwise if you look at departmental rankings, Hopkins doesn't do any better than the state flagships in engineering, etc. And it doesn't send many to Wall Street/top-tier consulting. Obviously Hopkin's top tier medical school does not help much for undergraduate education, so not sure why it is such a sought after pre-med destination.

Ironically the culture of stress at these universities probably reduce the students chances of getting into good graduate/law/professional schools.[/quote]

That's not exactly true, if you look at the earlier DCUM post UChicago tries to send students to Wall Street and consulting as well, and Hopkins tries to get kids in industry as well: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1081806.page. That's certainly no excuse for either school, look at Harvard, Stanford, Penn, Duke, and Columbia. They're sending kids to top grad schools [i]and[/i] top places in industry at high rates.

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Consulting Firms (McKinsey, Bain, BCG)[/b]: https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

1. Harvard
2. UPenn
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Dartmouth
7. Stanford
8. Duke
9. Columbia
10. Claremont McKenna
11. Northwestern
12. Vanderbilt
13. Rice
[b]14. UChicago[/b]
15. Williams
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Notre Dame
19. Georgetown
20. WashU St. Louis

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Medical Schools (Harvard Med, Johns Hopkins Med, UCSF, etc.)[/b]: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
[b]4. Johns Hopkins[/b]
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. UPenn
20. Emory

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Wall Street Firms (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JPM, etc.)[/b]: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

1. UPenn
2. Harvard
3. Columbia
4. Yale
[b]5. UChicago[/b]
6. Williams
7. Duke
8. Claremont McKenna
9. Middlebury
10. Princeton
11. Dartmouth
12. Notre Dame
13. Georgetown
14. Washington & Lee
15. Cornell
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Bowdoin
19. Stanford
20. Vanderbilt

[b]Top Colleges for Elite Private Equity Firms Leadership (Blackstone, KKR, Apollo, etc.)[/b]: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1082072.page

1. Penn/Wharton
2. Dartmouth
3. Harvard (tie)
3. Stanford (tie)
5. Duke
6. Georgetown
7. Yale
8. Columbia (tie)
8. Williams (tie)
8. Claremont McKenna (tie)
8. Wesleyan (tie)
12. Brown (tie)
12. Cornell (tie)
12. Berkeley (tie)
12. UMich (tie)
12. UVA (tie)
[b]12. UChicago (tie)[/b]

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Private Equity Firms Entry Level (Blackstone, KKR, Apollo, etc.)[/b]: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/undergraduate-representation-among-pe-firms-with-data

1. Princeton
2. Harvard
3. Dartmouth
4. Penn/Wharton
5. Duke
6. Columbia
7. Yale
8. MIT
9. Stanford
10. Brown
[b]11. UChicago[/b]

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Software (Google, Meta, Microsoft, etc.)[/b]: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Stanford
4. MIT
5. Caltech
6. Harvey Mudd
7. Georgia Tech
8. University of Southern California
9. Rice
10. Harvard
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Northeastern
14. Berkeley
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Brown
18. Santa Clara University
19. Northwestern
20. UIUC

[b]Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Engineering (Apple, SpaceX, NASA, etc.)[/b]: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Caltech
4. MIT
5. Georgia Tech
6. University of Southern California
7. Stanford
8. Olin
9. Harvey Mudd
10. Rice
11. Northeastern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. Santa Clara University
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Harvard
18. Rose Hulman
[b]19. Johns Hopkins[/b]
20. Cooper Union[/quote]

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