Anonymous wrote:Columbia at 10 is too high IMO.

Meaning it should be better or worse?

Columbia at 10 is too high IMO.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Where are Rice and Amherst?

Correct you are I somehow forgot Rice. Amherst was not included because the source data did not include LACs. With Rice it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Rice
14. Berkeley
15. UMich
16. Dartmouth
17. Georgetown
18. Johns Hopkins
19. Cornell
20. Notre Dame
21. WashU (tie)
21. UChicago (tie)
23. Brown
24. UNC
25. UF (tie)
25. UVA (tie)
27. CMU
---Big Gap---
28. Georgia Tech
29. UCSD
30. USC
31. Emory
32. UIUC
33. UCD
34. UCI
35. UW Seattle
36. BC
37. Wake Forest
38. UT Austin
39. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
40. W&M
41. UCSB
42. Lehigh
43. Purdue
---Big Gap---
44. Texas A&M
45. UMD
46. Virginia Tech
47. BU
48. UGA
49. NYU
50. NCSU

Very surprised that there's a big gap between Princeton and Harvard. How large is the gap?

It's somewhat sizable considering Harvard bombed on Forbes and Degree Choices. Without those two debacles, Harvard would probably be above Princeton.

Anonymous wrote:Surprised to see Lehigh in the 50. Thought WSJ was the only ranking that gave them love.

Lehigh also does really well on Washington Monthly, Money, and Degree Choices.

Surprised to see Lehigh in the 50. Thought WSJ was the only ranking that gave them love.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Where are Rice and Amherst?

Correct you are I somehow forgot Rice. Amherst was not included because the source data did not include LACs. With Rice it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Rice
14. Berkeley
15. UMich
16. Dartmouth
17. Georgetown
18. Johns Hopkins
19. Cornell
20. Notre Dame
21. WashU (tie)
21. UChicago (tie)
23. Brown
24. UNC
25. UF (tie)
25. UVA (tie)
27. CMU
---Big Gap---
28. Georgia Tech
29. UCSD
30. USC
31. Emory
32. UIUC
33. UCD
34. UCI
35. UW Seattle
36. BC
37. Wake Forest
38. UT Austin
39. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
40. W&M
41. UCSB
42. Lehigh
43. Purdue
---Big Gap---
44. Texas A&M
45. UMD
46. Virginia Tech
47. BU
48. UGA
49. NYU
50. NCSU

Very surprised that there's a big gap between Princeton and Harvard. How large is the gap?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Brown?

Good catch, somehow that slipped through the cracks. Including Brown it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. Brown
23. UNC
24. UF (tie)
24. UVA (tie)
26. CMU
---Big Gap---
27. Georgia Tech
28. UCSD
29. USC
30. Emory
31. UIUC
32. UCD
33. UCI
34. UW Seattle
35. BC
36. Wake Forest
37. UT Austin
38. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
39. W&M
40. UCSB
41. Lehigh
42. Purdue
---Big Gap---
43. Texas A&M
44. UMD
45. Virginia Tech
46. BU
47. UGA
48. NYU
49. NCSU
50. BYU

Can't we learn more on Reddit? Nearly identical posts and lists have been put on at least 2 other threads. Wallet Hub and Degree Choices...does anyone view those as sources of college rankings? 

Looking at early career earnings with no major or field data is also misleading. Shocker... with the current tech market, schools with more limited scopes and with large proportions of graduates going into tech have high early career earners (CalTech, CMU, MIT, Harvey Mudd)! That doesn't mean, for example, going to those schools for CS will yield you better earnings than similar graduates from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton, all of which have lower early career earnings in Money's system. On another thread, it was also pointed out that Stanford's CS grads have the highest initial salaries for CS majors.

Excellent points. I would also like to suggest that earnings don't equal success in all fields. This kind of ranking penalizes schools that are excellent in fields that are less lucrative overall. While earning potential is a consideration, higher ed should primarily be about education.

Also, ever even heard of Wallet Hub and Degree Choices.

The thing is majors are taken into account in several rankings, so it compares schools that have similar proportions of students in different majors. That helps make sure the tech schools don't completely dominate each time - look at Caltech, it got heavily discounted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Brown?

Good catch, somehow that slipped through the cracks. Including Brown it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. Brown
23. UNC
24. UF (tie)
24. UVA (tie)
26. CMU
---Big Gap---
27. Georgia Tech
28. UCSD
29. USC
30. Emory
31. UIUC
32. UCD
33. UCI
34. UW Seattle
35. BC
36. Wake Forest
37. UT Austin
38. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
39. W&M
40. UCSB
41. Lehigh
42. Purdue
---Big Gap---
43. Texas A&M
44. UMD
45. Virginia Tech
46. BU
47. UGA
48. NYU
49. NCSU
50. BYU

Can't we learn more on Reddit? Nearly identical posts and lists have been put on at least 2 other threads. Wallet Hub and Degree Choices...does anyone view those as sources of college rankings? 

Looking at early career earnings with no major or field data is also misleading. Shocker... with the current tech market, schools with more limited scopes and with large proportions of graduates going into tech have high early career earners (CalTech, CMU, MIT, Harvey Mudd)! That doesn't mean, for example, going to those schools for CS will yield you better earnings than similar graduates from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton, all of which have lower early career earnings in Money's system. On another thread, it was also pointed out that Stanford's CS grads have the highest initial salaries for CS majors.

Degree Choices is brand new and has actually been covered on other news publications such as Forbes, I expect it will rise in popularity. Also regarding salaries, several of the rankings compare salaries to other schools with similar major breakdowns. If you look at Money for example, they say "Graduates’ earnings adjusted for majors (20%). This takes a weighted average salary for each college, using earnings data from the College Scorecard, and compares it with colleges that graduate students in a similar mix of majors."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Brown?

Good catch, somehow that slipped through the cracks. Including Brown it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. Brown
23. UNC
24. UF (tie)
24. UVA (tie)
26. CMU
---Big Gap---
27. Georgia Tech
28. UCSD
29. USC
30. Emory
31. UIUC
32. UCD
33. UCI
34. UW Seattle
35. BC
36. Wake Forest
37. UT Austin
38. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
39. W&M
40. UCSB
41. Lehigh
42. Purdue
---Big Gap---
43. Texas A&M
44. UMD
45. Virginia Tech
46. BU
47. UGA
48. NYU
49. NCSU
50. BYU

Can't we learn more on Reddit? Nearly identical posts and lists have been put on at least 2 other threads. Wallet Hub and Degree Choices...does anyone view those as sources of college rankings? 

Looking at early career earnings with no major or field data is also misleading. Shocker... with the current tech market, schools with more limited scopes and with large proportions of graduates going into tech have high early career earners (CalTech, CMU, MIT, Harvey Mudd)! That doesn't mean, for example, going to those schools for CS will yield you better earnings than similar graduates from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton, all of which have lower early career earnings in Money's system. On another thread, it was also pointed out that Stanford's CS grads have the highest initial salaries for CS majors.

Excellent points. I would also like to suggest that earnings don't equal success in all fields. This kind of ranking penalizes schools that are excellent in fields that are less lucrative overall. While earning potential is a consideration, higher ed should primarily be about education.

Also, ever even heard of Wallet Hub and Degree Choices.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Where are Rice and Amherst?

Correct you are I somehow forgot Rice. Amherst was not included because the source data did not include LACs. With Rice it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Rice
14. Berkeley
15. UMich
16. Dartmouth
17. Georgetown
18. Johns Hopkins
19. Cornell
20. Notre Dame
21. WashU (tie)
21. UChicago (tie)
23. Brown
24. UNC
25. UF (tie)
25. UVA (tie)
27. CMU
---Big Gap---
28. Georgia Tech
29. UCSD
30. USC
31. Emory
32. UIUC
33. UCD
34. UCI
35. UW Seattle
36. BC
37. Wake Forest
38. UT Austin
39. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
40. W&M
41. UCSB
42. Lehigh
43. Purdue
---Big Gap---
44. Texas A&M
45. UMD
46. Virginia Tech
47. BU
48. UGA
49. NYU
50. NCSU

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Where are Rice and Amherst?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Brown?

Good catch, somehow that slipped through the cracks. Including Brown it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. Brown
23. UNC
24. UF (tie)
24. UVA (tie)
26. CMU
---Big Gap---
27. Georgia Tech
28. UCSD
29. USC
30. Emory
31. UIUC
32. UCD
33. UCI
34. UW Seattle
35. BC
36. Wake Forest
37. UT Austin
38. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
39. W&M
40. UCSB
41. Lehigh
42. Purdue
---Big Gap---
43. Texas A&M
44. UMD
45. Virginia Tech
46. BU
47. UGA
48. NYU
49. NCSU
50. BYU

Can't we learn more on Reddit? Nearly identical posts and lists have been put on at least 2 other threads. Wallet Hub and Degree Choices...does anyone view those as sources of college rankings? 

Looking at early career earnings with no major or field data is also misleading. Shocker... with the current tech market, schools with more limited scopes and with large proportions of graduates going into tech have high early career earners (CalTech, CMU, MIT, Harvey Mudd)! That doesn't mean, for example, going to those schools for CS will yield you better earnings than similar graduates from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton, all of which have lower early career earnings in Money's system. On another thread, it was also pointed out that Stanford's CS grads have the highest initial salaries for CS majors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Wow, is UChicago paying US News or something? Because it looks like they do much worse on every ranking that is not US News. Really puts them in a different light once you look outside the US News tunnel. Same with Johns Hopkins, it dropped dramatically once you look outside US News.

Both U. Chicago and Hopkins are focused on students going onto further studies, which obviously lowers their earning potential 5-10 years out from college.

U. Chicago focuses on graduate/law school rather than sending students to Wall Street/top-tier consulting etc.

Hopkins focuses on pre-med. Otherwise if you look at departmental rankings, Hopkins doesn't do any better than the state flagships in engineering, etc. And it doesn't send many to Wall Street/top-tier consulting. Obviously Hopkin's top tier medical school does not help much for undergraduate education, so not sure why it is such a sought after pre-med destination.

Ironically the culture of stress at these universities probably reduce the students chances of getting into good graduate/law/professional schools.

That's not exactly true, if you look at the earlier DCUM post UChicago tries to send students to Wall Street and consulting as well, and Hopkins tries to get kids in industry as well: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1081806.page. That's certainly no excuse for either school, look at Harvard, Stanford, Penn, Duke, and Columbia. They're sending kids to top grad schools and top places in industry at high rates.

Top Feeders to Elite Consulting Firms (McKinsey, Bain, BCG): https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

1. Harvard
2. UPenn
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Dartmouth
7. Stanford
8. Duke
9. Columbia
10. Claremont McKenna
11. Northwestern
12. Vanderbilt
13. Rice
14. UChicago
15. Williams
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Notre Dame
19. Georgetown
20. WashU St. Louis

Top Feeders to Elite Medical Schools (Harvard Med, Johns Hopkins Med, UCSF, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. UPenn
20. Emory

Top Feeders to Elite Wall Street Firms (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JPM, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

1. UPenn
2. Harvard
3. Columbia
4. Yale
5. UChicago
6. Williams
7. Duke
8. Claremont McKenna
9. Middlebury
10. Princeton
11. Dartmouth
12. Notre Dame
13. Georgetown
14. Washington & Lee
15. Cornell
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Bowdoin
19. Stanford
20. Vanderbilt

Top Colleges for Elite Private Equity Firms Leadership (Blackstone, KKR, Apollo, etc.): https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1082072.page

1. Penn/Wharton
2. Dartmouth
3. Harvard (tie)
3. Stanford (tie)
5. Duke
6. Georgetown
7. Yale
8. Columbia (tie)
8. Williams (tie)
8. Claremont McKenna (tie)
8. Wesleyan (tie)
12. Brown (tie)
12. Cornell (tie)
12. Berkeley (tie)
12. UMich (tie)
12. UVA (tie)
12. UChicago (tie)

Top Feeders to Elite Private Equity Firms Entry Level (Blackstone, KKR, Apollo, etc.): https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/undergraduate-representation-among-pe-firms-with-data

1. Princeton
2. Harvard
3. Dartmouth
4. Penn/Wharton
5. Duke
6. Columbia
7. Yale
8. MIT
9. Stanford
10. Brown
11. UChicago

Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Software (Google, Meta, Microsoft, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Stanford
4. MIT
5. Caltech
6. Harvey Mudd
7. Georgia Tech
8. University of Southern California
9. Rice
10. Harvard
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Northeastern
14. Berkeley
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Brown
18. Santa Clara University
19. Northwestern
20. UIUC

Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Engineering (Apple, SpaceX, NASA, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Caltech
4. MIT
5. Georgia Tech
6. University of Southern California
7. Stanford
8. Olin
9. Harvey Mudd
10. Rice
11. Northeastern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. Santa Clara University
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Harvard
18. Rose Hulman
19. Johns Hopkins
20. Cooper Union

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
From the original post where the data was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/

"In a nutshell, the rankings like Forbes, Washington Monthly, and Money care more about which schools provide high social mobility and opportunity access for lower income students while minimizing debt, rankings like WSJ/THE, Degree Choices, and WalletHub care more about pure earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI, rankings like US News care more about the achievements of students entering the college, the resources of the college, and the reputation of the college, and rankings like Niche care more about the overall student experience beyond just academics, such as student satisfaction/happiness, food, campus life and amenities, etc. So, by finding which schools are the best through an aggregate ranking, we find which schools succeed in all of these manners that singular rankings such as US News or Forbes might undervalue or miss completely."

For UMC, like me, based on above, niche and wallethub rankings are more important.

If you like Wallet Hub you should also look at WSJ/THE and Degree Choices because all three of those focus on earning potential, student outcomes, and ROI.

Anonymous wrote:No Brown?

Good catch, somehow that slipped through the cracks. Including Brown it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. Brown
23. UNC
24. UF (tie)
24. UVA (tie)
26. CMU
---Big Gap---
27. Georgia Tech
28. UCSD
29. USC
30. Emory
31. UIUC
32. UCD
33. UCI
34. UW Seattle
35. BC
36. Wake Forest
37. UT Austin
38. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
39. W&M
40. UCSB
41. Lehigh
42. Purdue
---Big Gap---
43. Texas A&M
44. UMD
45. Virginia Tech
46. BU
47. UGA
48. NYU
49. NCSU
50. BYU