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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where you unaware of the significant increase in applications since COVID? Did you think TO would have no effect on the applicant pool? Did anyone (e.g., college counselor) discuss yield projection for perceived "safety" schools? Do you consider the math/odds in applying to a school that accepts less than 20% of applicants? Did you discuss any of these issues with your kids before they applied? Or is it something else?

Even the college counselors got it wrong for us -it wasn't just us that were thrown by results (so far) and we are talking experienced high school college counselors and outside paid ones... applied to 23 because of the unknowns in at 6 ...our huge mistake and we knew when it was happening was that we could not get kid to get in ED or EA apps...we tried...hard... but kid would not do it...[/quote]

OP here: I would expect paid college counselors to be able to read the room. Many of these trends started before COVID and the pandemic just made it worse, but I have a hard time believing it was a surprise for people in the business. [/quote]

Do you mean private or school counselors as both groups are paid? Some quick thoughts: I think there was even a greater retrenchment than last year - @ DCs' school, kids with similar profiles to successful kids from last year not getting in to the same schools on ED1. I know there are a couple where the school counseling office still doesn't get what happened. Second, I think some parents still didn't quite grasp the tumult from last year. They knew there had been changes but they couldn't quite figure out how to tweak accordingly for their kid. If ED1 didn't work at a school with a 9% admit rate, then ED2 may not necessarily be successful at a similar school with 13%. Maybe it would've been better to go ED2 @ a 20+ school especially if your DC wants to be in a particular region of country.

I don't think this was necessarily a surprise for most people in the business, though the speed of it may be. Also, parents can be contradictory: they think their kid deserves a reach, the counselor disagrees but supports the parents/kid decision, then the kid gets rejected and the parents demand to know why the counselor allowed them to do that. I've seen/heard that a lot over the last few months.

For the earlier PP, sorry that your DC was not up for the ED/EA. Our one DC in cycle this time did not necessarily listen to much, but nailed that and it was a huge help. Submitted 6 EAs with the ED. Got into 2 EAs before finding out about the ED. Got lucky with ED, but the EAs really lowered the pressure for those few weeks before hearing about the ED. GL to your DC![/quote]

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, they both are paid, lol. I was referring to college counselors that people pay to work with, not school-based counselors. [/quote]

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