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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are very expensive from OOS and overcrowded so it's extremely common to take 5 years to graduate so you have to factor that into the cost too. I'm from CA and don't understand why someone would want to go there from OOS. Grad school at Cal or UCLA, sure. But waste of money for undergrad IMO.[/quote]
Also from CA and generally agree with this. I think UCSC and Cal Poly SLO (not UC, but a state school) offer unique experiences that could make OOS worth it for certain kids. Maybe also UCSD for a kid dead set on a biotech career. But a kid who can get into Berkeley OOS and wants to study econ or whatever surely also would be admitted to strong privates offering a much better undergraduate experience for around the same $$. And UCLA, UCSB, or the rest? C'mon.[/quote]

As a native Californian and UCLA grad I also agree.  Not worth the money for undergrad OOS, as the PP's have said classes are impacted and graduating in 4 years is almost impossible to do. Both of my nieces are minimum 5 years, one at UCLA the other at Cal...they simply don't have the capacity to meet all of the specific needs.[/quote]

Generally probably true but as a caveat: UCSB Center for Creative Studies (CCS) is lauded as “a post grad program for undergraduates”. Only approx 350 of the 26 k UCSB students are in CCS. They are accorded privileges and supports such as getting first dabs at course enrollment including post grad courses, being mentored by experts in their field of study, and being allowed to take accelerated classes in their disciplines. It’s small size, student privileges and grading system are designed to encourage self motivated students to accomplish original work as undergraduates.  It is not for everyone but it is for top students who are committed to one of the nine disciplines. Most of them end up in top tier post grad programs. DC would not have attended UCSB unless also admitted to CCS. It was a wonderful and unique undergrad experience surrounded by the Pacific on three sides.

However, we probably would not have paid the hefty OOS tuition for the general UCSB College of Letters and Science even though it provides a top notch education in many different fields. (#5 for public schools, #1 for green schools for those who care, 10 national institutes and centers with many research ops, Leiden ranked it #2 in world for science research impact, and more).

Less than 5% of UCSB students are OOS. It was very friendly environment for our DC though.

UCLA, UCBerkley and UC San Diego will reduce OOS student admissions to make way for more local Cal residents. So it is going to become even harder for youth from DMV to become admitted to the UC system.

However, OP mentioned this is a first generation college student application and the UC administration take great pride in providing social mobility for first generation students, military vets and Latino youth so it may be worth a shot.

Good luck OP!
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