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[quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous]Wow, wow and triple wow![/quote]
Can't say I'm surprised that someone read a bunch of stuff into what I posted, but you were quick out of the box. Try reading my very short, very limited statement again, taking out your many assumptions about what I must be thinking.

[quote=Anonymous]Please flip the script. Imagine your two year old child ripped from you. You search desperately for your child and find out two years later that your child is living abroad, illegally adopted by someone else. Do you just stop there and give up on your child.[/quote]
Didn't say she should have. I didn't criticize her in the least. I have great sympathy for her. That's why I said, "There's no good answer here."

[quote=Anonymous]The adoptive parents knew two years ago that their adoption was fraudulently obtained. They could have made this less painful for the child.  The adoptive parents chose to prolong this agony for this child.[/quote]
I didn't say anything about their rights. To the contrary, I said it was all about the child's best interests.

[quote=Anonymous]Moreover, This adoptive family is not the only family this child has ever known.  She knows her bio family...[/quote]
Knows them? From 5 years ago, when she was 2? Right.

[quote=Anonymous]...and at four would have reacclimatized herself better than at six.[/quote]
Presumably. What does that matter to the situation now? You seem to support sending her back to punish the adopted family.

[quote=Anonymous]However, six is not that old. Many children are adopted as older children, so can reacclimatize herself with her bio family.[/quote]
I notice that you're not actually saying that it won't be terribly traumatic. I hope you wouldn't say that.

[quote=Anonymous]Finally, how can you say that her standard of living would be an extreme drop. Do you imagine that everything is american is better and greater.[/quote]
I didn't. I said "may." Try reading the words on the screen instead of what words you can imagine that will get you into a self-righteous tizzy.

I don't know the details of these two families, but I do know that the standard of living is so much better here that as a child you'd be crazy to pick an average family here over one there. If you knew nothing other than the country you'd be born into, which of these two would you pick?

[quote=Anonymous]Should all the poor women, and I am not saying this bio mom is poor, should just relinquish their offspring to wealthier women.[/quote]
Yes, but the rich might not want ALL of the poor babies. In particular, the rich would prefer white babies without any congenital defects, so the others would more likely stay with their birth parents. But rather than make assumptions and create some huge bureaucracy to manage this, I would favor a free international market in children. That's why I think those maverick entrepreneurs who acquired the item from its manufacturer should be lauded as innovators instead of vilified as criminals. You rightly saw where I was going with my original few sentences.

[quote=Anonymous]This child should be returned to her bio family if they are determined to be fit. After all, if it was my child, I would want my child returned to me if he was stolen. Would not you if it was your child?[/quote]
Nah - I wouldn't give a shit. That's why I have multiple kids, so I can spare some.

You focused entirely on the rights of the birth parent, as if the child is her property. I'm focusing on the best interests of the child, based on the limited information available to me.

If my two-year-old were abducted and taken to, say, Norway (top standard of living in the world) and raised by a decent family (something unclear in the original story) to age six, I would seriously consider leaving her there, as difficult as that would be, rather than traumatizing her that way. Sometimes love requires sacrifice.

I don't think there's an easy answer here. I don't think it's crazy to return the child. Maybe you should similarly consider the nuances and competing interests here.[/quote]

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