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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you're baptizing in a Catholic church, you will actively have to lie throughout the ceremony. Awkward....[/quote] This is not true at every catholic church. I was not asked that question, ever, at the ceremony or before.[/quote] I don't believe you. This is the standard Baptism Rite: http://www.catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/Textcontents/index/4/subindex/67/textindex/7 [i]The celebrant speaks to the parents in these or similar words: You have asked to have your child baptized. In doing so you are accepting the responsibility of training him (her) in the practice of the faith. It will be your duty to bring him (her) up to keep God's commandments as Christ taught us, by loving God and our neighbor. Do you clearly understand what you are undertaking? Parents: We do. ...Renunciation of Sin and Profession of Faith The celebrant speaks to the parents and godparents in these words: Dear parents and godparents: You have come here to present this child for baptism. By water and the Holy Spirit he (she) is to receive the gift of new life from God, who is love. On your part, you must make it your constant care to bring him (her) up in the practice of the faith. See that the divine life which God gives him (her) is kept safe from the poison of sin, to grow always stronger in his (her) heart. If your faith makes you ready to accept this responsibility, renew now the vows of your own baptism. Reject sin; profess your faith in Christ Jesus. This is the faith of the Church. This is the faith in which this child is about to be baptized. The celebrant questions the parents and godparents: A. Celebrant: Do you reject Satan? Parents and Godparents: I do. Celebrant: And all his works? Parents and Godparents: I do. B. Celebrant: Do you reject sin, so as to live in the freedom of God's children? Parents and Godparents: I do. Celebrant: Do you reject the glamor of evil, and refuse to be mastered by sin? Parents and Godparents: I do. Celebrant:Do you reject Satan, father of sin and prince of darkness? Parents and Godparents: I do. According to circumstances, this second form may be expressed with greater precision by the conferences of bishops, especially in places where it is necessary for the parents and godparents to reject superstitious and magical practices used with children. Next the celebrant asks for the threefold profession of faith from the parents and godparents: Celebrant: Do you believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth? Parents and Godparents: I do. Celebrant: Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father? Parents and Godparents: I do. Celebrant: Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting? Parents and Godparents: I do. The celebrant and the congregation give their assent to this profession of faith: Celebrant: This is our faith. This is the faith of the Church. We are proud to profess it, in Christ Jesus our Lord. All: Amen. If desired, some other formula may be used instead, or a suitable song by which the community expresses its faith with a single voice.[/i][/quote] I couldn’t care less what you believe. I am telling you this did not occur and I had 2 kids baptized two years apart. About 20 years ago. I was hyper-sensitive to this because I did not want to do this so I said “I’ll do it until they ask me if I believe or if I promise to raise them in the faith”. I thought that would be my out. I got tricked because it did not happen. I have no reason to lie about this! This is a well-regarded Catholic Church at a mid sized town in the northeast. There were multiple baptisms that day each time and it included a pre-baptism session at someone’s house (we did not go to the pre-session for my second child).[/quote]
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