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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sadly over 40% of freshmen STEM/Engineering majors change majors to something easier so there are bigger problems than someone trying to get in under one thing and do a switcheroo.

Something about K-12 just is NOT creating students that can problem solve, fail & try again, get curved grades (50% right is an A, but you don't all get As!), etc.

ANyhow. Somewhere in China, a billion people are laughing at us. [/quote]

That 40% depends on many things.

The program and advisors at the college
The quality of high school they accepted students
Allowing or not allowing kids in AP's

Here is the thing with engineering.  These are the three types that drop out

1.  Didn't know what an engineer actually does or doesn't have the patience to get thru the boring courses to get to the good stuff 
2.  Is a perfectionist who only received A's and can't tolerate that you fail 95% of the time in engineering to get that rare 5% that works (when coding, creating, learning, etc...)
3.  Went to a school with a poor program, lack of advisors and study groups, accepted too many kids knowing they would drop and get enough transfers to make up the cost.

Every school we went to said time and time again, the females outperform the men in engineering IF they stick with it.  That the females don't think they are doing well when they are in fact, doing better than most of the men.  But the woman feel it isn't a good fit too quickly and leave.

I haven't met any woman going into engineering to get a bye into a school.  Same with men in nursing.  The kids that get into any great engineering program have the grades.  Unfortunately many with those same grades also get denied.  The scores of the some of the UMCP engineering rejections are unbelievable.  [/quote]

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