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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad]Let's say at the outset -- I have no doubt CCL started with good intentions. And Virginia NPL also served some purpose.

But now we have DA. And ECNL. A lot of the CCL clubs actually have teams in one or the other. (It's worse in Georgia -- on their message board, I referred to the new SCCL as "Southern Clubs' C-teams League," and I'm not really kidding.)

And now we have EDP, which offers one fluid system that includes club vs. club brackets as well as opportunities for teams that may be better than the rest of their clubs. The top tier replaces the old Region I leagues.

So with all of these leagues available, what's the purpose of CCL and Virginia NPL? Does the club vs. club concept make any sense now that you're talking about B teams? Why wall yourself off from other competition? And why not let your teams find the right level in a pro/rel system, either in EDP or NCSL or ODSL?[/quote]

Good questions.  My take:

No, the club v club concept does not make any sense now that you're talking about B teams.

The only purpose of CCL and NPL now [u]is[/u] to wall themselves off from other competition.  That way they can sell themselves as, if not "elite", at least better than [fill in the blank with some other, supposedly less prestigious league].

The reason they don't want their teams to simply find their right level in a pro/rel system is that then they will be found out.  They can't claim to be in an "elite" league if they can't earn it on the field.

Put another way, it's about parent ego more than anything.  It makes some feel better to say their kid's team plays in CCL or NPL than in NCSL.  Clubs know this and capitalize on it to draw/retain players.

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NP. I completely agree! We are in a D2 NCSL team and regularly beat CCL and NPL teams in tournaments and scrimmages. The opposing parents always look so confused leaving the field... Yes, DA and EDP are all the 'elite' needed. Then NCSL for the rest of us. Down to decent rec leagues like SFL and MSI. [/quote]

EDP isn't really any more "elite" than NCSL outside of the top divisions, especially as they expand.   I'd say the main difference is that one is local and the other isn't.  They are both pro/rel, which is good.

Why do people need "elite" leagues?  Is that just a way to feel better about your choice?  Let's just settle on what works.[/quote]

That's true, but I do think the EDP top divisions are at a higher level than NCSL D1, which makes them the de facto 2nd tier behind boys DA and girls DA/ECNL.[/quote]

Leagues don't matter from U9-U13.  Training matters more than games.  Much more.  Once you get to U14 and higher the games start to matter as well.

I looked at the top EDP division and the top NCSL for my U14 and the EDP appears tougher.  It has the #1 team in the entire Country for our age group.  And the #1 team in VA.

One question:  how is SDOR '05 Elite playing in both EDP Div 1 and NCSL Div 1?  Same team, same coach.  The EDP games are Saturdays and NCSL Sunday--but I didn't think it was possible.

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