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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This would be like a doctor going to school, taking all the necessary courses and ongoing training and then during your heart surgery. Just being like you know what I'm not comfortable with this and walking out of the operating room. Who goes into a profession trains for that profession gets paid to do that profession but then refuses to do the actual work when it comes down to it. [/quote]

When you realize that you personally might actually die. [/quote]

And yet we require 18 year olds to register for the selective service.  And they could be called up after high school graduation and shipped to a foreign country against their will and handed the same weapons and ordered into the line of fire. And we allow other 18 year olds to commit to being sent to war, no excuses.  We expect it of soldiers. And if our Army turns tail and runs, that’s very bad as well.   We also expect it of police, many of whom are older and all of whom knew going in this was a possibility.

And here’s something else to think about. Unconscious bias is a powerful thing. If this were a classroom full of UMC white kids, 77 minutes would not have elapsed. [/quote]

About your last comment. The political pressure from parents alone would have had cops in the room much quicker if there were UMC white kids.  Imagine this happening at a private school? Never would 77 minutes elapse.[/quote]

That is the most racist thing you could ever say. You know nothing about Uvalde at all.[/quote]

DP It is not racist to point out racism. If this had happened a Sidwell or Choate do you think the police response would be different- yes. Would the police still be lying about what happened - no. Would meaningful gun restrict be in place- yes. [/quote]

This isn’t helpful. I’ll go out in a limb and suggest that MPD would have a different response posture for Sidwell than a small, rural town in SW Texas. We know that based on April 22 local and federal response to the Burke shooting. Laying blame for the lack of action at Uvalde on racism strikes me as facile given that many of the responding officers were themselves Latino. [/quote]

Your response is disingenuous and more like conservatives propaganda full of lies and fake news. 91 law enforcement officers were at the site and did nothing. They were ordered to stand down and wait which is against all SOPs. The small rural SW Texas town had its own swat team and school police force in addition to regular police. They had all the resources, training and personnel need to handle one shooter. We all know what Texas conservatives think of poc and immigrants. The police’s inaction was followed up by a cover up that starts at the highest level of Texas government and is still on going.

This would have been handle differently if the school was Sidwel or similar. You know that but for some reason you wish to spread your lies and disinformation. [/quote]

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s, may I take your order? [/quote]

What the f are you saying? Are you trying to be funny? Here an update for you over 400 law enforcement officers were at the school and did nothing. Every day there is more and more coming out and all you do is spin. I bet you were one of those Sandy Hook deniers. What the f is wrong with you conservatives?You are f in the head. [/quote]

DP. That’s an older joke. It’s used when people go on rants, especially for unwanted or unrelated topics. I’m rather progressive and I rolled my eyes at that comment too, so get over yourself.

Also, the new report said 376 members of law enforcement. It’s still a lot, so it’s really not necessary to exaggerate to make your case look better. It diminishes your other points when you do that. If you want a dramatic talking point, you could say there were more officers there than there were defending the Alamo. But please do stop accusing other people of spin if you can’t even get your own facts straight. [/quote]
Nearly 400.
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Like I said.

And I personally wouldn’t be sad if every one of them lost their job, and I wish there were charges the ones in charge could face. I don’t know how they’re continuing with life in these small towns where they must see the victims’ families every time they go to the grocery store or church or whatever. I also think pointing out that the punisher phone cop was receiving info that his wife was shot makes him look better than he did before we knew that’s why he was on his phone.

My point was that this story is plenty bad without exaggerating to make it look worse, especially if you’re accusing others of spin. [/quote]

Psychologically, people are less likely to help if they are one of many than if they are alone.[/quote]

Even law enforcement with proper training? I know that about random people, but I thought that was the point of all the training and money we spend on the police.[/quote]

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