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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As an adoptive mom my heart bleeds for Caitlyn and tyler. I don't have any good answers. Yes, giving up Carly probably destroyed her. Yes, if they raised Carly she probably wouldn't have the quality of life she has with her adoptive parents. I also don't think they are good parents to Nova so it's hard for me to think they would have been better parents 8 years ago. I think they had terriblely traumatic childhoods and their DNA had so much addictive tendencies that they never had much of a chance. Even when you give people tools (in this case the tool is money) it doesn't mean they know how to build.[/quote]

I am curious as to why you think they are not good parents to Nova? [/quote]
You don’t see how they aren’t good parents to Nova?

The instability of a mother who is constantly in and out of out-of-state treatment facilities and now a trial separation, where they will probably move back in together, pretend all is fine, and do it all over again when/if the mood strikes again.

A mother who is always high. Or sleeping. Or crying. Or complaining.

A clearly unsatisfied father. Unsatisfied parents in general.

Kids sense discord. Kids need routine and stability in their lives. Catelynn should have gotten her shit together before she introduced yet another child into their crazy world. Tyler should have fished or cut bait before he got Catelynn pregnant. Those poor kids.[/quote]

You’ve exaggerated quite a bit:

- she isn’t constantly in and out of treatment. For a period of time, she was in and out of treatment - was it two times total?

- she wasn’t sleeping much this season. I also think she handled the impending separation - and wanting to get it started or to know if he thought it would be permanent faced it head on. If she had something to cry about all the time - being pregnant - this would be justified but she handled it well.

Yes, Tyler is frustrated and annoyed and angry but I don’t see him As being an u satisfied father at all.

I’m not saying they are perfect parents but nova is fed, engaged, clothed, clean, spoken to, interacted with, and loved.

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