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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wish you would have been more diplomatic, PP, but I agree with you. I support women's rights to make decisions for themselves first and foremost, but grit my teeth at this pablum about "feeling more confident" and "doing it for myself" when all they are doing is supporting the patriarchal doctrine that women's faces (bodies, hair, breasts) are not beautiful in their natural and unaltered form. Women should feel confident because of their accomplishments and abilities, not their makeup or how their breasts look.[/quote]

You, even being somewhat more diplomatic than our militantly unwell friend, are still off-base. Yes, I shave my legs and underarms (when I bother to) basically because society says I should. But part of that is self-maintenance. Where do you draw the line? What's acceptable to you and Ms. Militant? Is shampoo acceptable? Is conditioner over the top because we don't really need it? Should pixie cuts be mandatory lest some woman feel pretty with shoulder length hair? Is my plucking my full beard acceptable, or do I need to be one of the uncommon women who just has a beard because only "society" deems it unacceptable? Is wearing a bra bad in your minds because you think I want my H's to look better or because I don't want a sweat rash and an aching back at the end of the day. Does my wearing makeup for myself mean more to you because I'm a SAHM and, legitimately, no one but my children usually sees me until 5:00 pm? Is it alright with you if I carve out this adult ritual as something separate and apart just for from changing diapers, wiping noses, cleaning and playing children's games, or am I still a sheep brainwashed and made dumb by the patriarchy?

You may have made your argument more eloquently, but you're both still condescending, rude and full of assumptions.[/quote]

I love it!  I'm militant and unwell because I can see that all of this shit is on a continuum?  You people are hilarious and really really defensive.  You honestly don't get the difference between basic hygiene and all the beauty industry bullshit we really don't need?    How is pointing out this obvious thing rude or condescending?  I have touched a very sensitive nerve.  Really, step back and think about it.

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Yeah, I'm done with you. You're bat shit crazy. And a jerk, honestly. You haven't touched a nerve, you're not revealing some grand truth. Here's a grand truth: showering is on the same continuum. Basic hygiene flows into light makeup. You are arbitrarily assigning necessity to one and saying another is oppressive. Why? I have no idea your motivation. Other than you delight in being a prick and thinking you "struck a nerve."[/quote]

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