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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Okay all you PUA guys, what do you do if you don't want just a friend and also don't want just a one night stand? Would you neg a woman you wanted to date, or get to know better? Why the rush to have sex by the third date[/quote]

Yes, of course we would. The goal is sex. Anyway, you just dangle the carrot of long-term relationship in front of them, fuck them for a month or so, and then never talk to them again. It's really quite simple.[/quote]

Are you fourteen? You seem to have entirely misunderstood my question.

I did not ask how you get women to bed.

I asked how you would conduct yourself with a woman you did want to talk to again, someone who made you feel happy, safe, capable. Would you still insult and "fuck" those women? Or is the idea of a long term relationship abhorrent to you generally?

Do you have any appreciation for what a good woman can do for your life? And vice versa?[/quote]

Depends, there are two sort of related tracks a relationship can go down, the "very serious, leading to marriage or extreme long-term cohabitation" track and the "happy to kill time with this woman, and will gladly have her move in so he has a maid and has sex" track.

If you want to see them again, then you'd make the carrot a reality and disengage if she starts getting lazy/comfortable but expecting "new relationship" quality of attention. You might delay the initiation of full sex as well as there's a set of women happy to give it up quickly for a guy they don't really like but content to make a guy they claim to like wait for a longer period.

Presumably you keep your roving eye at rest or if it's a girl you're happy to kill time with but don't really want to be serious about, you wait until she goes out of town and avoid hitting on her friends (first).

If a woman's into a guy (both in having sufficient initial attraction and in liking how the relationship is going) the initial neg won't matter provided the guy can avoid making little digs over the course of the relationship. If he can't then the relationship is doomed.

I suspect at least some of the PUA artists would have a section devoted to the obtaining and maintaining of relationships, but without that initial spark/chemistry, the obtaining bit is hard to do.

I have also noticed many women get extremely uncomfortable about the dissection of the art and science of the obtaining and maintaining of relationships. [b]Apparently, it's just supposed to happen. (Granted, for the 16-30 y/o women it does just happen.)[/b] [/quote]

Men (excluding rich/super handsome guys) and women 35+ have to put in much more effort to find a relationship/get laid. That's why they try various "strategies." Not sure why young women aren't more cognizant of this difference. [/quote]

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