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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm late to the party, but ... isn't it hard to teach a child not to hit when you're hitting them?

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this assumes that the point of the lecture (spanking) is not to hit anyone, ever. while in fact the point is not to hit the parent. [/quote]

But is a child going to understand that concept? My child hits me, so I hit him back to teach him not to hit me?
I parent by modeling the behavior that I expect from my children. [/quote]

You can't parent solely by modeling. Otherwise your kid would have a job, husband, cook and drive. A parent being allowed spank does not mean that somehow the child is allowed to hit the parent any more than a child can take your ipad, send you to bed or give you a timeout. there is no contradiction, parents do many things and their kids are not allowed to do.

And I don't spank btw.[/quote]

The things that you list - cooking, driving, etc - are skills and abilities, not behavior. There's a difference. Of course I don't let my toddler chop carrots with a knife so that she can model my ACTIONS and do the same. I DO expect my children to model behavior, though: speaking kindly, handling the cat gently, saying please and thank you, etc.
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I also did not intend to imply that I parent solely by modeling. But it does accomplish a lot in a positive manner. [/quote]

driving and cooking are behaviors that require certain skills, but also maturity. it's not for kids. the point is that arguments against spanking which are based on absolutely symmetry (parent can't spank because kids are not allowed to hit etc) do not work. there is no 100% symmetry between parents and kids.

as for modeling, presumably spankers on the thread use that, too. [/quote]

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