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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree, PP....

A student trying to get in to an advanced grade without placement in Mandarin at Yu Ying - who didn't yet have the opportunity to learn it STILL won't have the opportunity to learn it at the same level even if he does get in, because he will have missed out on the foundational work that was taught in the previous years.  That's why they SHOULD be allowed to do testing and placement.  The argument against it is irrational.[/quote]

The kid who does not have mandarin in the fourth grade will have the opportunity to apply for an open spot in the 6th grade.  that child will then have the same chances as a child who has knowledge in mandarin, but not yet a yy student.  to allow non-lottery admission in grades 3-5 based on test-in, places[b] high SES children at an advantage.[/b]   [/quote]

Oh, and we certainly cannot have that.  Everyone has to be treated exactly the same:   B/c a child who does not know Mandarin cannot do 3, 4, 5th grade work in Mandarin.  Another child who could do the work in Mandarin will not be given the opportunity either...  [b]A recipe for mediocrity and a waste of resources and potential - the school's and the child's[/b].

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If the current model is such a "recipe for mediocrity", why is everyone and their cousin scrambling for a spot at Yu Ying?  As another PP said, no one has a right to this, and sometimes there are bigger reasons than just what happens at grades 3, 4 and 5 to consider.  If this is a recipe for mediocrity, why is the waitlist a mile long for this school today?  And not just a waitlist of parents who are applying everywhere and anywhere.  The waitlist includes parents who this is far and away their first choice, and parents who aren't applying to any other DC public school except Yu Ying (and the same is probably true for a couple of other charters).  So, recipe for mediocrity?  Then why the rampant competition for a spot?[/quote]

I'm saying that the way the DCPCSB lack of testing in the higher grades is a model for mediocrity not YY which works within the rules and is a great school despite this ridiculous rule which no other Chinese immersion school has to follow.[/quote]

The points made by a PP about how DCI addresses this are good.  It doesn't create a pathway for grade 3, 4 and 5 admissions, as you so strongly believe in, but it does address attrition and let's be real, we are talking about a tiny number of slots in each of these schools.  Those slots will get filled, especially under this model, and that's a great thing.  Can you think of a model of a school - really, any school ever in existence - where every single top, reasonable priority of every major player was effectively addressed?  Founders of charter schools and educational success-driven policy makers have a lot of critical outcomes to balance, and although there is always always room for improvement, this model has covered its bases pretty amazingly.  The few spots that will be unfilled for 3, 4 and 5th grades at each feeder to DCI seems a small price to pay for the larger model that is addressing so many different priorities.  And no way does that model represent "a recipe for mediocrity".  Quite the contrary, they've done rockstar jobs of trying to account for so many different kinds of students' success, it's actually mindboggling.  And the proficient student who is lucky enough to lottery in will get the chance to maximize their experience too. Now, let's just hope it works! :D  But yeah, balancing priorities is hard, and as a PP said unless you are fully discounting the value of lower SES kids still having a shot (which, if admissions by language proficiency is allowed at grades 3, 4 and 5, let's be real, there will be NO slots going to lottery at 6th or 9th for DCI and therefore no shot for non-proficient would-be students), then a small number of students not having the chance to bypass what everyone else has to go through is a small price to pay if these larger goals are actually addressed.    [/quote]

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