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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election. [/quote]

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

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Stop gaslighting people. This was the 2020 Democratic Primary. This is the kind of self own by Dems that played right into Trump’s hands. Obama would NEVER had said fringe / wacko stuff like this in 2008.

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So you would prefer human beings simply die in the streets? I mean, as it is, doctors are obliged to treat humans regardless of status in emergency rooms, so we are already paying for it. Including illegals in healthcare plans make it a lost less expensive for society as a whole. But people like you don't know how things work and don't care and long as you can own the libs.[/quote]

I only posted this because I didn’t have time to post the other moment of them agreeing that illegal immigration should be treated with civil fines and not deportation. The combination of both these moments infuriated Dem centrists like me. I could never vote for Trump but a lot of independents and socially conservative Dems moved to Trump because of stuff like this. If Dems just went back to Obama’s immigration stance, or Bernie’s when he said illegal immigration depressed wages and was a “Koch brothers plot,” Trump would never be here.[/quote]

the supreme court had affirmed that just being in the country illegally was NOT a crime. So what the democrats were saying was, these people are being employed (mostly by right wing business owners) and are otherwise supporting our economy and committing crimes at lower rates than natural born Americans, so what is the harm? If someone here illegally commits crimes, they get deported and Biden and Obama deported them - and did it in a legal manner and at rates surpassing what Trump did in his first term and legally, which Trump is not doing now. People here illegally contributed hundreds of billions of dollars to the US economy and the ones on payroll contribute to social security and medicare without being eligible to realize those benefits later in life. So ultimately, they are accretive to our society.[/quote]

Ah more willful ignorance.  If it were the courts, we would have to prove harm.  EG we would have to have standing.  They hit us with a stick or something.  In this case the harm is just general overcrowding and competition for reduced resources.  EG schools, pools, welfare and jobs. Politically we don't have to prove they harmed us directly, to not want them here.[/quote]

talk about willful ignorance...

people here illegally are 1) not using our public pools 2) not using welfare and 3) taking jobs no one else wants[/quote]

Yes what your approach is, is willful ignorance.  What's your point?[/quote]

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